Dry Run

Kristina and Lizzie talk concert histories from a Guns N Roses show at age 6 to a Euro Phish tour in college and interview Sam Outlaw about what it's like to be a sober country musician in the Nashville scene. Check out Sam Outlaw’s new album The Nonessential, coming out March 24th. And a special thank you to My Friend's Coffee for the connect.

Lizzie and Kristina listen to downtown doyen and storied Paper Magazine editor Mickey Boardman dish on rehab, sugar, family dynamics, A.A., and how to live fabulously.

Lizzie and Kristina discuss barely remembering their own weddings and chat with guest Kelley Garrard who is navigating the modern dating scene without alcohol. Garrard discusses the tools she uses to stay away from alcohol including a twelve-step program she used to conquer disordered eating, micro-dosing mushrooms as a bridge, and always trying to obey her body.

Welcome to Dry Run's Sober Bowl special edition sports pod. Lizzie and Kristina talk Eagles mania and the dialectical feelings of celebrating Lizzie's 1 year sober-versary.

Plus, Chips are the new 'chos, 25 years since the original Wazzup Budweiser commercial, and even tho beer is on a downward trend (down 5% according to various reports), we’re still floored at the beer stats the Super Bowl brings in.

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Lizzie and Kristina talk psychics, saunas and cigarettes; of obsession versus addiction, and the "stolen valor" concept that comes from a chosen sobriety that lacks a rock bottom. Writer Monica Corcoran Harel comes on the pod to talk about her recent New York Magazine essay, Make Peace With Some of Your Addictions.

Lizzie and Kristina talk to political commentator and podcaster Virginia Heffernan of What Rough Beast about the teetotaling presidents, Trump 2.0, dieting culture, how rubble cuts both ways, and how sobriety can bridge the delta between our public personas and our real lives. For more, check out All the President's Non-Alcoholic Vices on our weekly Substack newsletter.

Lizzie and Kristina talk about coping in carwashes, getting high off Phony Negronis, and interview long-time A.A. member Dana about the urge to hoard energy and the new world order of sobriety.

Lizzie and Kristina talk about the accountability of being vulnerable, where to get healthy dopamine hits, the proliferation of sober bars, and if we should stop supporting Big Goose’s alcohol-free bevies.

Lizzie and Kristina talk about the subcategories of sobriety, candor with friends and family, Lizzie's family's (potentially toxic, but potentially radically healthy) New Year's resolution tradition, the ability to change one's personality, triggers, and the iconoclastic nature of ditching alcohol. Join us on our GRWM Dry/Damp January!!

Welcome to Dry Run, a weekly podcast and newsletter by two friends who spent their careers in the media, magazine, and culture space. We are two non-drinkers supporting each other as we talk out all the tough, hilarious, gritty, and empowering facets of the modern paradigm of sobriety.

We’re going to be trading stories, exploring new products, and talking to guests about navigating the choppy waters of sobriety and how to stay dry.

We use storytelling, humor and data to support anyone who finds themselves on the vast spectrum of ditching alcohol—this includes sober, sober-curious, sober-ish, abstinent, and label-agnostic. We are here for you and wherever you are on your journey, and are excited to grow our community.

There's no topic that's off limits, but when it comes to alcohol, we believe less is more.

The spectrum of being free from alcohol is broad and means different things to different people; we welcome everyone here who want to break free from the negative aspects of drinking. We’re here for you and wherever you are on your journey, and are excited to grow our community.