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Gosia shares her experience leading a startup through significant change by introducing a goal framework and implementing OKRs (Objectives and Key Results). Initially resistant, the company transitioned to quarterly reviews and goal-setting processes. Teams were tasked with defining their contributions, leading to greater collaboration and understanding of their roles. Regular retrospectives and actionable feedback refined the approach, while tools like Monte Carlo simulations and WIP limits helped maintain focus. This story emphasizes that driving change requires adaptation and continuous learning.

Self-reflection Question: How do you ensure that goal-setting frameworks support your team’s focus and growth?

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Angela thought she was just there to coach a team. But now, she’s caught in the middle of a corporate espionage drama that could make or break the future of digital banking. Can she help the team regain their mojo and outwit their rivals, or will the competition crush their ambitions? As alliances shift and the pressure builds, one thing becomes clear: this isn’t just about the product—it’s about the people.

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About Gosia Smoleńska Gosia has worked in IT since 2013, growing from a manual tester to roles in QA, project management, and scrum mastery. She shares agile knowledge passionately and helps build start-up cultures. Her expertise spans Scrum, Kanban, NEXUS, and Lean.

You can link with Gosia Smoleńska on LinkedIn.

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The conversation Sophie, Matthias and Benjamin discuss the the need for a pragmatic approach to evolve, and the importance of understanding the specific pain points in an organization. They also discuss the role of methodologies and frameworks in driving change and the need to focus on value creation rather than just process execution. They highlight the importance of understanding the purpose behind rituals and meetings and the need to adapt them to the organization's context.

The conversation explores the concepts of agile software development, domain-driven design, and Wardley mapping. It emphasizes the importance of understanding the why behind these methodologies and tailoring them to the specific context of an organization. Overall, the conversation encourages a thoughtful and iterative approach to software development.

Guest:

Sophie Seiwald-Højer

For 17 years, Sophie has been immersed in the world of technology at Mercedes-Benz. Throughout her career, she has accumulated a wealth of experience and insights, encountering the inevitable ‘wear and tear’ that comes with long-term dedication to the tech industry. Over the past decade, Sophie has played a pivotal role in transforming her teams from a project-led to a product-led approach. This journey has been filled with challenges, from emotional outbursts and unmet expectations to rebellious teams, downtimes, and major process and design failures. Despite these hurdles, Sophie finds immense value in these experiences and loves to share her insights with others, affirming that the journey is indeed worth it.

Mathias Patzak

Mathias’s passion for technology is evident from his early achievements. In 2002, he built his first continuous integration pipeline for 120 engineers at a German automotive company. By 2004, he had pioneered the first multi-scrum team as an engineering manager, gaining hands-on experience with extreme programming techniques. His career trajectory led him to become the CTO of AutoScout24, a leading European classified portal for cars, where he introduced lean-agile practices at scale. Since joining Amazon Web Services in 2020 as an Enterprise Strategist, Mathias meets with leaders of the world’s largest companies to help modernize their business and IT from a people, process, and technology perspective. His extensive experience and strategic insights make him a valuable asset in the tech industry.

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In this conversation, Benjamin and Mike discuss the current state of the agile community, particularly the layoffs and job market for Scrum Masters and Agile Coaches. They emphasize the importance of understanding project management and how it relates to agile ways of working. Mike suggests that Scrum Masters should focus on showing value by increasing top-line revenue and decreasing bottom-line costs. They also discuss the need for context-specific approaches to agile, depending on the size and industry of the organization.

Mike Lyons:

With three decades of hands-on experience, Mike completed 16 agile certifications, and having trained thousands and garnered over 10,000 followers and earned recognition as a top voice in the Agile Community by LinkedIn. His journey has taken him through diverse landscapes, from startups and nonprofits to global corporations and government agencies.

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In this conversation, Benjamin and David Anderson discuss the evolution of agile and the principles of Kanban. David shares his background and how he got involved in the Agile movement. He explains that Kanban is an evolutionary approach to achieving agility, focusing on operational and management practices. He emphasizes the importance of starting with the basics and evolving from there, rather than implementing prescriptive frameworks. David also discusses the challenges of scaling agile practices in organizations and the need for an explicit approach to dealing with resistance.

David Anderson:

Anderson studied electronics and computer science at the University of Strathclyde and worked in the IT field at companies including Motorola, Microsoft, and Corbis in the Seattle metropolitan area. In 2005, he established the use of Kanban in software development, and five years later, he published the first book on Kanban. Anderson is an influential author, with notable works including “Kanban: Successful Evolutionary Change for Your Technology Business.” As a consultant and trainer, he founded David J. Anderson & Associates and the Kanban University, offering expert guidance on implementing agile practices. Through his thought leadership and community contributions, Anderson has significantly shaped the modern understanding and application of agile and lean management principles.

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In this episode, host Benjamin welcomes Simon Wardley, the creator of Wardley Mapping, to discuss his innovative framework for understanding competitive landscapes. Simon shares the story behind Wardley Mapping, explaining how it started as a personal tool and evolved into a widely used method for strategy development. He also touches on his background in building companies, working in open source, and even his personal life.

Simon Wardley:

Explorer of uncharted spaces. Twice voted in the UKTech50, Judge in Nesta's Open Banking and Netflix's Open Source competitions, Co-Chair of OSCON Europe, Cloud Camp and Map Camp. Regular speaker on the global tech circuit.

Simon Wardley on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonwardley/⁠

Simon Wardley on X: ⁠https://x.com/swardley⁠

Simon Wardley on Medium: ⁠https://swardley.medium.com/⁠

Communities:

Mapcamp:⁠ https://www.map-camp.com/⁠

Learnwardleymapping: ⁠https://learnwardleymapping.com/⁠

GitHub: ⁠https://github.com/wardley-maps-community/awesome-wardley-maps⁠

Discord: ⁠https://discord.com/invite/wDeRkkmXRE⁠

Wardleymaps: ⁠https://www.wardleymaps.com/⁠

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In this episode of the Stellarwork Podcast, Klaus Leopold discusses the concept of Flight Levels, a framework designed to optimize agility across multiple teams and levels of an organization. He explains the three levels of Flight Levels—operational, coordination, and strategy—and emphasizes the importance of visualizing work and creating focus. The conversation also covers practical steps for starting small with Flight Levels, measuring success through metrics, and the importance of stakeholder engagement.

Klaus Leopold:

Klaus Leopold is a well-known expert in the field of Kanban, Agile, and Lean methodologies. He has made significant contributions to improving the flow of work and optimizing organizational agility, especially in complex environments. Klaus is the creator of the Flight Levels model, a concept that helps organizations visualize work at different levels—from strategic initiatives to operational tasks—to ensure alignment and effective prioritization across the organization.

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Flight Levels Academy - https://www.flightlevels.io/

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/klausleopold/https://www.linkedin.com/in/klausleopold/

Book - https://www.amazon.com/Rethinking-Agile-Nothing-Business-Agility/dp/3903205397

Introduction To Flight Levels: https://www.flightlevels.io/workshops/flight-levels-introduction/

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Melissa Perri is the founder of Product Institute, author of Escaping the Build Trap, and host of the Product Thinking Podcast. She has worked with startups, Fortune 50 companies, and everything in between to help them build better products and level up their product teams. In our conversation, we discuss:

• The history of the product owner role

• The differences between product owners and product managers

• How to transition from product owner to product manager

• The evolution of and problems with the SAFe framework

• How large non-tech companies can improve their product practices

• Much more

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• X: https://twitter.com/lissijean

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissajeanperri/

• Website: https://melissaperri.com/

• Product Institute: https://productinstitute.com/

• Podcast: https://www.produxlabs.com/product-thinking

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• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Melissa’s background

(02:12) The rise of the product owner role

(06:37) Understanding Agile and Scrum

(08:27) Challenges in Agile transformations

(10:41) The history of the product owner role

(13:58) The Scrum Guide

(15:43) Product owner responsibilities

(21:01) Adopting Scrum in organizations

(26:21) The origins and implementation of SAFe

(35:20) Why Melissa doesn’t recommend SAFe

(40:33) Advice for implementing a digital transformation

(49:12) An example of SAFe adoption

(51:27) The value of experienced product leaders

(56:53) Career paths for product owners

(01:04:14) Transitioning from product owner to product manager

(01:06:41) Be careful relying on certifications

(01:11:43) Evaluating existing product owners

(01:16:55) Final thoughts on Agile and product management

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Referenced:

• Escaping the Build Trap: How Effective Product Management Creates Real Value: https://www.amazon.com/Escaping-Build-Trap-Effective-Management/dp/149197379X

• Lean UX: https://leanuxnyc.co/

• Scrum: https://www.scrum.org/

• What is Extreme Programming? https://www.agilealliance.org/glossary/xp/

• Capital One: https://www.capitalone.com/

• The Agile Manifesto: https://www.atlassian.com/agile/manifesto

• Ken Schwaber on X: https://x.com/kschwaber

• Jeff Sutherland on X: https://x.com/jeffsutherland

• Kanban: https://www.atlassian.com/agile/kanban

• What is a kanban board?: https://www.atlassian.com/agile/kanban/boards

• Ron Jeffries’s website: https://www.ronjeffries.com/

• Jeff Patton on X: https://x.com/jeffpatton

• The Scrum Guide: https://www.scrum.org/resources/scrum-guide

• OpenSky: https://www.openskycc.com/

• SAFe: https://scaledagileframework.com/

• Dean Leffingwell on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deanleffingwell/

• Capital One scraps 1,100 tech positions: https://www.reuters.com/technology/capital-one-scraps-1100-tech-positions-source-2023-01-19/

• Product management theater | Marty Cagan (Silicon Valley Product Group): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/product-management-theater-marty

• Marty Cagan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cagan/

• Jeff Gothelf on X: https://x.com/jboogie

• Shruti Patel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shruti-patel-32bb573a/

• Product Thinking Podcast: Mastering Product Focus: Balancing Legacy and Innovation with Shruti Patel: https://www.produxlabs.com/product-thinking-blog/2024/9/25/episode-190-mastering-product-focus-balancing-legacy-and-innovation-with-shruti-patel

• Melissa Douros on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissadouros/

• Mind the Product: https://www.mindtheproduct.com/

• Athenahealth: https://www.athenahealth.com/

• McKinsey: https://www.mckinsey.com/

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Aman Khan is Director of Product at Arize AI, an observability company for AI engineers at companies like Uber, Instacart, and Discord. Previously he was an AI Product Manager at Spotify on the ML Platform team, enabling hundreds of engineers to build and ship products across the company. He has also led and worked on products at Cruise, Zipline, and Apple. In our conversation, we discuss:

• What is an “AI product manager”?

• How to break into AI PM

• What separates top 5% AI PMs

• How to thrive as an individual-contributor PM

• Common pitfalls to avoid when building AI products

• The importance of energy and curiosity in product roles

• Much more

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• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanberkeley/

• Website: https://amanalikhan.com/

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• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Aman’s background

(06:16) Understanding AI product management roles

(13:29) Getting started as an AI product manager

(18:14) Building a portfolio and standing out

(22:31) Why product management is not dead

(28:56) How to thrive as an AI product manager

(35:42) Finding good ideas that are AI-oriented

(39:27) Be careful not to automate away every customer experience

(42:53) What separates top 5% AI PMs

(46:55) Key habits for long-term IC success

(52:48) The importance of energy in meetings

(57:00) Wandering vs. waiting

(01:01:41) Amplifying signal through AI tools

(01:03:18) Just have fun

(01:05:36) Lightning round

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Referenced:

• AI Resources and Tools for PMs (Updated Oct 2024): https://open.substack.com/pub/amankhan1/p/ai-resources-and-tools-for-pms-updated

• Unlocking the AI PM Dream: Your Roadmap to Success: https://amankhan1.substack.com/p/unlocking-the-ai-pm-dream-your-roadmap

• Arize: https://arize.com/

• Ryzen: https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/business-systems/ryzen-ai.html

• NotebookLM: https://notebooklm.google/

• Figma: https://www.figma.com/

• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/

• Replit: https://replit.com/

• Excalidraw: https://excalidraw.com/

• Vercel: https://vercel.com/

• v0: https://v0.dev/

• How Airbnb Proved That Storytelling Is the Most Important Skill in Design: https://www.inc.com/yazin-akkawi/the-surprising-technique-airbnb-uses-to-better-sell-an-experience.html

• Brian Chesky’s new playbook: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/brian-cheskys-contrarian-approach

• Midjourney: https://www.midjourney.com/

• Dall-E: https://openai.com/index/dall-e-3/

• Introducing the Realtime API: https://openai.com/index/introducing-the-realtime-api/

• Intro to Large Language Models | Andrej Karpathy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjkBMFhNj_g

• Watch Me Build an App in 60 Minutes With o1 and Cursor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zmhe6_T-xU

• Greg Isenberg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gisenberg/

• Vision, conviction, and hype: How to build 0 to 1 inside a company | Mihika Kapoor (Product at Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/vision-conviction-hype-mihika-kapoor

• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/

• Instacart: https://www.instacart.com/

• How to grow a subscription business | Yuriy Timen (Grammarly, Canva, Airtable): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/transform-your-subscription-growth

• When Identifying the Problem Isn’t Enough: Lessons from Boxed Cake Mix by Ann M. Aly, TechFlow Director of Human Centered Design: https://www.techflow.com/when-identifying-the-problem-isnt-enough-lessons-from-boxed-cake-mix/

• Waymo: https://waymo.com/

• The Ikea effect: https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/ikea-effect

• Blue Apron: https://www.blueapron.com/

• Unorthodox PM wisdom: Automating user insights, unselling job candidates, logging every decision, more | Kevin Yien (Stripe, Square, Mutiny): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/unorthodox-pm-wisdom-kevin-yien

• LeBron James: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeBron_James

• The Secrets Behind Lyft’s Dynamic Culture: https://www.forbes.com/sites/marissaperetz/2018/05/16/the-secrets-behind-lyfts-dynamic-culture/

• Aparna Dhinakaran on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aparnadhinakaran/

• Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety | Tristan de Montebello (CEO & co-founder of Ultraspeaking): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/master-public-speaking-tristan-de-montebello

• Ultraspeaking: https://ultraspeaking.com/lenny/

• A Short History of Nearly Everything: https://www.amazon.com/Short-History-Nearly-Everything/dp/076790818X

• Designing Your Life: How to Build a Well-Lived, Joyful Life: https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Your-Life-Well-Lived-Joyful/dp/1101875321

• Tour de France: Unchained on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81153133

• Formula 1: Drive to Survive on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/80204890

• Websim: https://websim.ai/

• Appeel Books: https://appeel.brandeditems.com/

• Steve Jobs quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/374630-your-time-is-limited-so-don-t-waste-it-living-someone#

• Becoming a conscious leader: Leading without fear, finding your life’s objective function, and getting better at vision and strategy | John Mark Nickels (Uber, Waymo, DoorDash): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/becoming-a-conscious-leader-john-mark-nickels

• Aman Khan (cricket player): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aman_Hakim_Khan

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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan toups discuss "Building Evolutionary Architecture" by Neal Ford, Rebecca Parsons, Patrick Kua, and Pramod Sadalage. Join them as they discuss how the approaches to designing software architecture have changed over the years, the purpose of fitness functions, and how trying to re-use code can backfire!