Get bonus episodes on Patreon! Another Dune book discussion means another joyful Shakespeare recalibration. This time, Cam is delighted to find Frank Herbert swerving into Julius Caesar mode, with a renewed focus on history that extends beyond Shakespeare into the modern era. We consider the scope of these points of reference and their effect on Herbert's larger critique within the series. Without spoiling anything, Cam considers the idea of the ghola as an escalation of our long-standing echoes and ghosts theories into a walking and talking thought experiment. We close with a deep dive into prophecy, free will, religious justification, and messianic culpability – and we ponder the future of our Dune coverage.

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