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Begins with ice coffee from Dunkin Donuts.
W3C-developed standards aren't better.
I wanted to say that I was pleased with Brendan Eich's interview with Steve Gillmor.
This podcast unlike the previous one sounds like stuff I still support, even applaud.
I talk about how I found something on the Netsape site during the development of RSS saying they don't want to be part of a standards process, they just want to make software. That's where I come from too.
People who gather around standards often/usually aren't there to make software. So it's no surprise that the standards don't deploy well in actual software.
Skip ahead to 10 minute mark if you want to hear this stuff.
At the very end I say I look forward to what's coming in HTML. Well it didn't imho turn out to be what I was hoping for, which I think IIRC was SVG. No doubt it works, but the graphic OS I wanted has never been created on top of SVG as far as I know.
I mention the marquee element in this episode and I was curious to see if it still works, so I wrote a test app which you can try too. It does still work in 2024. I hope it works forever. That's how the web should work. Much later I'll write about this in Rules for standards-makers.
These are my notes as I listen to the July 12, 2004 podcast 20 years later.
Oddpost bought by Yahoo. I talk about "dynamic html apps" which today we'd call web apps, I guess. Oddpost was kind of a miracle, done by the team that did HalfBrain, a browser-based spreadsheet. Apparently Oddpost came out before GMail, which if I recall correctly came out around that time, maybe May 2004? I remember I was in St Augustine when it came out. I still use that GMail account all the time for basically everything.
RSS 2.0 namespaces aren't evolving as I hoped they would, but Movable Type did a great job in helping the format coalesce, thanking them for that.
Daniel Berlinger wants to know why he should vote for Kerry. I never get around to saying why he should vote for Kerry. I didn't handle this well. I think we had the same animosity that doesn't serve us, not even talking to people who support the other candidate.
As in the previous podcast, I'm not sure I like what I'm saying here. But I agree with 2004 Dave's decision this time not to vote for Bush and be an enthusiastic supporter of the Democrat. I wonder if my podcasts of 2024 sound any different.
Iraq was the big issue in 2004. We started an unprovoked war. Kind of like what Russia is doing in Ukraine, today, btw.
Again, it's interesting to listen to myself speaking in words that sound like me, saying things today's me thinks are naive. And in fact almost by definition they are. The world we live in today didn't exist in 2004.
I wish I knew where I was on this day, I can hear cars driving by. But I'm sure I'm not driving. Is it NY? No clue.
The Scripting News archive for the day.
PS: It is in NYC! Right at the end of the podcast. It was 9:02AM. Pretty close to the current time today 20 years later.
From the original blog post: "Talking with Steve Gillmor this afternoon, he got on my case, again. Where are your audio blog posts, he wanted to know. I said there was a technical glitch, but I think I've solved it. So here's a new audio blog post, thanks to Steve for the motivation."
In this podcast, from July 11, 2004, I get back on track. I was driving, at the beginning saying it was "live from NY." I don't know where I was coming from or going to, and I don't want to take that too literally but it sounds like I was in NY.
Speaking very softly, very unusual. I talk like the world is falling apart, this was shortly after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, which are now pretty faded out, but we hadn't been through Trump 1 yet, or Covid, or Hillary's emails, all that crazy shit. Obama was still just a state senator from Illinois I think?
I didn't like Michael Moore, said he lies -- I bet I was right about that but I don't remember. These days I think of Michael Moore as a hero, but even now he says and does things I question, so it's good to remember.
I made it very clear up front and in the end that Steve Gillmor had been nagging me to do another audio blog post. It's in the description of the podcast on my blog. So thanks to Steve for that.
I said something about postponing the election? I have no recollection of that, and spoiler -- the election was not postponed unless I'm dreaming this whole thing.
According to Foreign Policy, Bush did consider postponing the election, fearing terrorist attack.
I'm so glad I listened to this one. I have a lot of questions about what is going on. At the end it comes out that I have left Boston. And at the beginning I say I'm in NY. But it sounds like I'm in a car.
A link to the Scripting News page for this day in 2004.
This podcast came out 20 years ago today. I was just beginning to figure out how this new medium worked, and rather than record my own thoughts, as with the previous two episodes, I published audio from another source. This one was from my meditation teacher, Jeru Kabbal. Starting with the next episode, tomorrow -- we'll have an original audio blog post.
Here's the description from 2004: "I started an MP3 audio archive for my teacher, Jeru Kabbal. I started with a scan of a tape called Sunrise of the Soul, one of the Quantum Light Breath tapes. It's truly an amazing process, if you clear a little over an hour, you can have an incredible experience that may stay with you for years. It's great stuff. "Remember today is a new day, a day that has never happened before and will never happen again." Yeah it sounds dorky, but it's true, and it reaches inside, and man, it gets me every time. iPod-compatible, of course. With much love, Dave."
A link to the Scripting News page for this day in 2004.
PS: I've been making mistakes in 2024 on almost every episode. This time I got the title wrong, it's Sunrise of the Soul. Rather than change it, and take a chance of the episode showing up twice in some podcast clients, I'm just leaving it as-is. Trying to get a feel for how most of the clients work. Do they refresh posts, if the descriptions change (as this one is)? I don't know.
I recorded Bill Clinton on 60 Minutes, audio only, as broadcast on WBZ-AM Boston. Commercials included.
The next podcast will go out on July 10, because that's when it was posted in 2004. We've finally caught up.
If you want to skip ahead, you can, the full archive is at morningcoffeenotes.com.
Audio for 1/2 of the Bill Gates keynote at ADAPSO in 1991. I'm on this tape proposing that Apple and Microsoft work together on interapplication communication, which is the pre-Internet precursor to XML-RPC and SOAP. I talked much faster 13 years ago. There's another tape out there somewhere, where Gates says okay, he'll work with Apple, but I don't seem to have it. The rest of the story is here.
The second "audio weblog post," in which I talk about dead presidents and their funerals and how many Dead Presidents we have to spend on them.
Adam commented on this episode: "I've been enjoying Dave Winer's Morning Coffee Notes, which is intended to be a daily audio blog post. The second post sounds completely like the Dave I talk to on the phone. After a few minutes I forgot that he wasn't talking to me. But just like a radio host, he is talking to me."
In 2004, I had a feed and a blog. I had been trying to encourage other people to do these audio blog things. What I didn't get then is that I had to go first. The Tom Sawyer and the whitewash fence predicament. They're going to steal your ideas for sure. You just have to get them to steal the *right* ones. And this was probably the biggest thing I ever launched on my blog. But it took some steps, patience and constant beating of the drum.
One person, a laptop, a little software and a popular blog. And something to say. :-)
Those are the basic ingredients of a podcast.
I went through all the steps, and out the other end came a podcast.
Except we didn't know they were called podcasts yet.
This was the first one that started all the rest of them.
This is called a bootstrap, and if you stick with it through the end of the year, you will see the bootstrap happening right before your ears.
All you have to do is listen.
Twenty years later, and..
Still diggin!
I recorded Bill Clinton on 60 Minutes, audio only, as broadcast on WBZ-AM Boston. Commercials included.
The next podcast will go out on July 10, because that's when it was posted in 2004. We've finally caught up.
If you want to skip ahead, you can, the full archive is at morningcoffeenotes.com.
The second "audio weblog post," in which I talk about dead presidents and their funerals and how many Dead Presidents we have to spend on them.
Adam commented on this episode: "I've been enjoying Dave Winer's Morning Coffee Notes, which is intended to be a daily audio blog post. The second post sounds completely like the Dave I talk to on the phone. After a few minutes I forgot that he wasn't talking to me. But just like a radio host, he is talking to me."
From the publisher's feed