Would you like power to be closer to you? Do you like economic clusters? Are you a wannabe councillor with some mates who have a bad business plan? Are you a nation or region? Welcome to New Britain - it's safer here. We're joined by Phil Burton-Cartledge to talk about the big new Labour thinkpaper on devolution and constitutional reform. It's better than Levelling Up, but not by much ... 

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Pod Cast: David, Rob, Jamie, James, Alasdair 

Very Special Guest: Phil Burton-Cartledge