Kirk and Jason start off by talking about what Jason saw at E3 yesterday, then pivot  (15:38) to Sony's weak explanation for why they don't support cross-platform play in Rocket League and Minecraft. After that Jason’s joined by Destiny 2 game director Luke Smith (23:35) for a predictably lively chat about the game. He’s then joined by Days Gone director John Garvin (45:30) to talk about how that game is coming along, how much work it takes to make a big E3 demo like the one they just showed, and why it’s worth doing.UPDATE: For some reason, the first version of this episode cut off at 5 minutes. You may have to redownload it to get the full 58 minute version. Sorry about that!

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