Demographer Dr. Paul Morland joins El Podcast to explore why population collapse—not overpopulation—is the defining crisis of the 21st century.

Guest Bio: Dr. Paul Morland is one of the UK’s leading demographers and the author of several books including Tomorrow’s People: The Future of Humanity in Ten Numbers. A senior associate at the think tank Civitas, Morland is known for his deep analysis of demographic trends, their impact on economics, geopolitics, and culture, and his bold advocacy for pro-natalist policy solutions.

Topics Discussed:

• Why overpopulation fears are outdated and misguided
• Demographic collapse in East Asia, Southern Europe, and beyond
• The economic and social consequences of aging societies
• Cultural, religious, and ideological roots of fertility decline
• Why immigration isn’t a sustainable solution
• What the U.S., UK, China, and Africa face demographically
• Morland’s forthcoming book Procreate or Perish

Three Best Quotes:

• “If societies like the Italians are not interested in reproducing themselves, there will be no Italy as we’ve understood it—and no Italians—in 300 years.”
• “Ultimately, if you want fewer people without coercion, the price is demographic collapse—economically, socially, and spiritually.”
• “You can’t build a future society on childlessness. That’s not a philosophy—it’s an ending.”

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