Can a wine be both unmistakably Bordeaux and unmistakably not Bordeaux at the same time?

In Episode 84 of Read Between the Wines, Pierre Ferland sits down with Anselmo Guerrieri Gonzaga of San Leonardo Family Estate, one of Trentino's most iconic names, in the shadow of the Dolomites, Italy. It's a lively, story-driven conversation that moves from history to terroir, and from bottle ageing to the future of wine itself.

Critics call San Leonardo "Bordeaux with Alpine poise" — and once you understand why, the contradiction starts to make perfect sense. A narrow valley. Fewer hours of direct sunlight. The Ora wind rolling in off Lake Garda. Together, they shape a freshness, a restraint, an elegance that no amount of classic Bordeaux winemaking alone could produce. We unpack the estate's philosophy, the origins of their flagship San Leonardo wine, and the underrated star of the cellar: Carménère, often mistaken for Cabernet Franc and wildly different here than in Chile.

We also dive into the craft side: concrete vats, restrained oak, extraction choices, and what makes Terre such a joy to drink.

Then, in our bonus episode — available exclusively at readbetweenthewines.com — we go deeper into sustainability, Equalitas, biodiversity, pergola versus Guyot, climate change planning, and yes, the famous San Leonardo garden.

Featuring: San Leonardo, Trentino, Italy, Carménère, sustainable viticulture.