What if the most exciting white grape in the world has been hiding in plain sight, just south of Barcelona?

Meet Xarel·lo. Mineral, textural, age-worthy, and criminally underrated. And meet Joan Cusiné, co-owner of Parés Baltà, a biodynamic estate in the Penedès with roots going back to 1790, where wine is never complicated and never a punishment.

In this episode, Pierre sits down with Joan to explore one of Catalonia's most compelling wineries. We talk terroir, altitude, and why the Mediterranean makes all the difference. We dig into biodynamic farming, minimal intervention winemaking, and the radical idea that great wine starts in the soil, not the cellar. We unpack the three pillars of the Parés Baltà range, from everyday drinking to rare single-vineyard Microcuvées. And we make the case, loudly, that premium Cava deserves a seat at the world's best tables.

Penedès. Xarel·lo. Biodynamic wine. Cava. Spanish wine. Organic winemaking. Catalonia.

Want more? A bonus episode with Joan is available exclusively at readbetweenthewines.com. Deeper questions, more specific territory. The cellar door conversation.

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