Eating Crow

In this episode, we sit down with Ben Price, a former British Army intelligence officer turned author and coach, to explore identity, personal growth, and what it means to truly know yourself. From his book Conversations with a Suicide Bomber to the four archetypes of King, Warrior, Magician, and Lover, Ben shares hard-earned lessons on fatherhood, military conditioning, and the uncomfortable truths that shape us. He reflects on the power of self-awareness, why our actions matter more than our words, and how doing the work on ourselves can help others overcome their fears. Ultimately, it's a conversation about finding peace over victory and discovering who you really are.

In This Episode

• [00:00:05] Welcome and introduction to Ben Price
• [00:01:16] Ben’s background: who he is and what he’s about
• [00:02:39] Eight years in the Intelligence Corps and working with the Gurkhas
• [00:04:27] The question that changed everything: “Who are you and why are you here?”
• [00:05:58] Meeting the mentor who initiated him
• [00:07:51] Why it’s a gift to ask this question at 38
• [00:09:11] “Friendly fire” and “releasing hostages”: winning the war in your mind
• [00:11:52] Would your old teammates recognize you? The power of a 360 review
• [00:13:36] Writing Conversations with a Suicide Bomber
• [00:16:26] Rethinking sin: the belief in separation
• [00:18:25] Is there a need for warriors? King, warrior, magician, lover
• [00:21:48] Why the king is weighted most heavily
• [00:23:01] Slowing down and noticing where you respond from
• [00:24:29] The magician and its shadow: procrastination and manipulation
• [00:25:47] “We don’t see things as they are, we see things as we are”
• [00:27:05] Who this work is for: leaders, founders, and fathers
• [00:28:59] What clients discover: they find peace
• [00:30:27] Parenting: boundaries versus letting kids find themselves
• [00:33:41] Pete’s story: his father’s example and a pivotal moment with his teenage son
• [00:37:27] Authenticity versus the “perfect success” posts on LinkedIn
• [00:38:10] The Field Manual: who it’s for and why Ben built it
• [00:40:12] Accountability, agency, and Marcus Aurelius’s “don’t be purple”
• [00:41:44] Values, pressure, and red lines
• [00:43:01] Telling the truth without taking away someone’s agency
• [00:44:26] Inspiration versus manipulation in leadership
• [00:47:04] Leading by example: how fitness and discipline speak for you
• [00:50:07] Pete’s 1999 360 review and a mentor’s lesson on perception
• [00:51:17] One thing to do before 40: the Matterhorn and the Initiators brotherhood
• [00:53:06] Closing thoughts and a possible follow-up from the summit

Our Guest

Ben Price is a British leadership coach, author, and former British Army Intelligence Corps soldier. He served eight years alongside the Gurkhas, special forces, and weapons intelligence before building a business career, including owning a gym. He now coaches founders, senior leaders, and fathers through a values-based approach to leadership. He is the author of Conversations with a Suicide Bomber and a companion 100-day Field Manual, “leadership initiation for men who want a big impact without becoming consumed by it.” He is also building Initiators, a brotherhood of men doing this work together, with gatherings in the South Downs in the UK.

Resources and Links

• Eating Crow with Pete Durand

Ben Price

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coachbenprice
• Book: Conversations with a Suicide Bomber
• Book: The 100 Day Field Manual

Pete Durand

• Website: https://www.cruxiblepartners.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petedurand

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Andrew Brown will change the world.

His mission is to upend how our educational, vocational and cultural views see the trades.

AI is coming for a lot of jobs.

Robotics are coming for a lot of jobs.

But the trades will be here for a long time - making them more attractive than ever.

Yet, the stigma lingers.

Go to college, get a high-paying job.

There are few college degrees that lead to high paying jobs - they usually lead to significant debt that has to be serviced by a low-paying career.

Most trades pay extremely well and in many cases, the work doesn't go home with you - it stays on the jobsite.

This reduces stress and improves family life.

Listen as Andrew shares why he chose to be a champion for trades - and support his mission!

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Maurice Philogene is genuine.

He's one of those rare people who you meet that exceeds your expectations.

He's accomplished a lot in life. He's done things most of us wouldn't dream of doing.

He's only in his late 40's, there's much yet to be done for Maurice.

When he shares lessons on life, professionally, financially and to live life, he does it in a unique way.

He's just stating the facts.

We went into his background - what caused him to think this way?

What caused him to approach life with such patience, persistence and a view to the future?

What caused him to become a successful executive...

...then become a police officer at night?

Who does that??

How is Maurice financially independent at 47 years old?

How did he do this while working three jobs and raising a family?

He asked questions.

He did his homework.

He developed a plan.

He stuck to the plan.

So amazing in this world if instant gratification and "influencers."

I was not influenced by Maurice.

I was inspired.

He still drives his 2005 Lexus, because, well it, runs.

Could he drive something more flashy? Sure.

But that's not who he is.

He's one of the humblest, kindest, and intentional people I've met.

It was an honor to have him on the program, a stretch guest for sure.

Enjoy.

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Some people want the ball at the end of the game.

They want to take THE shot.

Casey Jacox is that guy.

He's a quarterback.

He's a husband.

He's a dad.

He's found a way to tie all this together into a mission.

To help dad's "quarterback" their lives.

I fully support this mission.

Quarterbacks start each play with a plan - from a playbook.

When they step to the line, the plan makes sense or it doesn't depending on what they see from the defense.

Proceed as planned, or call an audible.

So goes husbandry.

So goes fatherhood.

Our plans may not be the right call.

We must adapt.

Casey and I talk about parenting - how we learned lessons as young men that shaped our approach as fathers.

And how we made mistakes and learned from them.

That's a solid episode of Eating Crow right there.

Follow Casey and his Quarterback Dad podcast...it's worth it.

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Jeff Wickersham thinks big.

He's on a mission to help 1 million dads be better husbands, fathers and leaders of men.

Heck, I was just hoping to get yours truly through a workout today :-).

Jeff's story is relatable.

He's brutally honest about his choices, setbacks and reckoning.

He leads by example.

He leads his family by owning his past and his future.

How many dads can get their family to the gym at 5:30 am?

VERY few.

Imagine the look on your kid's faces when the walk out of the gym and head to school?

They conquer the day. For sure.

Be one of the million dads, moms or friends.

Be intentional.

Be bold.

Be better.

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Greg VanDyne is one of those rare men who could kill you with one finger but would prefer to offer you a hug or a helping hand.

He's experienced things most civilians can only read about.

He's a warrior.

He's on a mission to help other warriors adjust to a post-military life.

He's also building a company that can help anyone struggling with mental health...and I have to say, what they are doing is incredibly cool.

Greg is very open about his journey, his challenges and his ongoing battle to find peace of mind. Refreshingly honest - it's a lifelong process and most of us think there is a quick fix, there isn't.

I'm a big fan, you should be too.

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Nat Berman has receipts. Boxes of them.

His mission is to help other fill their receipt boxes...

...so they can create the life they secretly desire but may not know how to build.

What's the goal? Financial independence. It's not necessarily wealth, it's the freedom to choose where to invest your time.

Nat put in the work - long days, for years, with one goal: To get off the treadmill of corporate life.

Now Nat helps others create a plan to be Masters of their Universe (please tell me you have one of these t-shirts, Nat).

Nat posts daily on LinkedIn...usually wearing a vintage t-shirt with obscure movie lines or classic culture references.

What Nat preaches is not for everyone. Another successful business person posting selfies from his backyard pool (don't forge the cool t-shirts).

Don't let the format mislead you. Nat has discovered, after years of posting, how to reach an audience. People who are not willing to do the work don't understand.

Nat's just running the same process he used to create financial independence to help others.

Seems to make sense.

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Loren Rosario-Maldonado is brilliant.

Intellectually.

Emotionally.

Instinctively.

I'd never considered "Cultural Intelligence" before I met Loren.

It makes so much sense.

In her book "Becoming the Change: The Power of Cultural Intelligence" she shares her journey and her experiences in building high-performing teams, one human at a time.

I found Loren engaging, intuitive, thoughtful and yet practical in her approach to helping people and teams succeed.

Read her book, subscribe to her newsletter.

It may change the way you think about human capital.

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This episode is epic.

Paul Watkins is a book you should not judge by its cover.

He's intelligent.

He's well-read.

He's thoughtful.

He's also intentional.

What you may not see at the surface is his penchant for adventure.

Extreme adventure.

Paul is seeking danger.

He's seeking growth.

He's seeking development.

He's also setting an example for his kids.

He wants them to know the world is their oyster - and there for the taking.

I find Paul to be one of my favorite guests and humans.

He is one of the few people I follow on LinkedIn - consuming his Daily Dose.

You should as well.

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Will and John are the odd couple.

They work well together but couldn't be more different.

Will has been in the talent game for some time.

John has been a brand builder and marketer for some time as well.

They understand how people think, and how they work together - or don't.

They've partnered to help companies understand how to build great teams and avoid the wrong mix.

How? They get leadership teams on the same page - about what they need and who they are REALLY looking for.

Seems logical right?

Yet, very few companies truly understand what they are looking for, and what they aren't.

Had a blast with this one, hope you enjoy it.

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