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Many of us who are settlers now living on Turtle Island or anywhere in the world where colonization has taken place, recognize that ours is a time of truth and reconciliation. Forced assimilation and boarding schools established by the Indian Civilization Act of 1819 deliberately suppressed the use of Indigenous language and culture. We are haunted by histories where government policies, colonizers, missionaries, and the like, aimed to eradicate Indigenous peoples and their way of life, rather than celebrate the sacredness of diversity, our inter-relatedness, and shared values.

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Because there are few speakers of the Lakota language under the age of 30, Sage Fast Dog answered his community’s call to create a Lakota Immersion School, Wakanyeja Ki Tokeyahci [http://www.sicangu.co/wakanyeja] that would empower youth and revitalize the Lakota way of life. In this episode he shares the journey of reclaiming the Sicangu education system and uplifting Lak̇ota language, culture, and Indigenous identity.

Nowadays, elders are dying; living knowledge keepers, and fluent speakers of Native languages are fewer and fewer, making it incumbent upon us all to ask: what of the future? What will we regret or celebrate 100 years from now? What if Indigenous languages and lifeways are revitalized? What will return if Indigenous languages return? How will society at large change? Would the lands, waters, and all living beings be the better for it? Prophecies augur this time where Indigenous peoples and the youth will lead. The revitalization and continuance of Indigenous languages and the cosmological views embedded in them, are essential for the Ancient Future that looms on the horizon.

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Sage Fast Dog, the Founder and Director of Sicangu Co's Lakota Immersion School, Wakanyeja Ki Tokeyahci [http://www.sicangu.co/wakanyeja], is a passionate educator dedicated to preserving the Lakota culture and language. Born and raised on the Sicangu Makoce, Sage helped establish the school to address the urgent need for language preservation. Through his unwavering commitment, he has created a vital institution that immerses children in Lakota language and traditions, ensuring their cultural legacy endures.

Carry Kim, Co-Host of EcoJustice Radio. An advocate for ecosystem restoration, indigenous lifeways, and a new humanity born of connection and compassion, she is a long-time volunteer for SoCal350, member of Ecosystem Restoration Camps, and a co-founder of the Soil Sponge Collective, a grassroots community organization dedicated to big and small scale regeneration of Mother Earth.

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Episode 195

Breathing clean air and drinking clean water are fundamental rights. However, these have been denied to many low-income communities and communities of color, who often live next to massive industrial facilities that pollute the air and water.

Our guest from an encore presentation from early in 2023 is Dr. Mustafa Santiago Ali {https://www.mustafasantiagoali.com/] former EPA official and now Executive Vice President at the National Wildlife Federation and Founder and CEO of Revitalization Strategies. He has been working toward solving historical injustices that target certain communities for class- and race-based discrimination putting them in the path of harm from toxic exposure, climate disruption, and industrial accidents.

In this show we discuss Dr. Ali's history of working at the EPA and why he had to leave that position. We talk about the toxic train derailment in East Palestine, OH; the EPA regulation of forever chemicals in drinking water; and vehicle pollution standards. We also discuss how the EPA authority to regulate greenhouse gasses has been dialed back by a recent supreme court decision.

Through his public advocacy, Dr. Ali shares his holistic approach to empowering and revitalizing vulnerable communities to secure environmental, health, and economic justice. And how all of us can use our talents to be part of the larger change while also curbing climate anxiety and burnout.

Dr. Mustafa Santiago Ali is a thought leader, international speaker, policy maker, community liaison, trainer, and facilitator. Dr. Ali serves as the vice president of environmental justice, climate, and community revitalization for the National Wildlife Federation (NWF) [https://www.nwf.org/About-Us/Leadership/Mustafa-Santiago-Ali]. He is also the founder of Revitalization Strategies [https://www.mustafasantiagoali.com/about-mustafa/], a business focused on moving our most vulnerable communities from surviving to thriving.

Before joining NWF, Dr. Ali was the Senior Vice President for the Hip Hop Caucus (HHC), a national nonprofit and nonpartisan organization that connects the Hip Hop community to the civic process. Prior to joining the HHC, Mustafa worked 22 years at the EPA and 2 years on Capitol Hill working for Congressman John Conyers, chairman of the Judiciary Committee. He began advocating on social justice issues at the age of 16 and joined the EPA as a student, becoming a founding member of the EPAs Office of Environmental Justice.

Jessica Aldridge, Co-Host and Producer of EcoJustice Radio, is an environmental educator, community organizer, and 15-year waste industry leader. She is a co-founder of SoCal 350, organizer for ReusableLA, and founded Adventures in Waste. She is a former professor of Recycling and Resource Management at Santa Monica College, and an award recipient of the international 2021 Women in Sustainability Leadership and the 2016 inaugural Waste360, 40 Under 40.

Most would agree it is a farmer’s right to save, replant, share, breed, and sell seed. This fundamental right is rapidly eroding globally as multinational seed companies push for the worldwide expansion of restrictive seed laws, patents, and intellectual property rights. Multinationals–like Monsanto/Bayer, DuPont, and Syngenta--account for about half of all commercial food crop seed sales (also the singular largest producers of pesticides and herbicides) and continue to consolidate control.

However, it is the independent farmer who has historically been the basis of food security for local communities; they are often the first line of defense against hunger. Many new vegetable varieties (especially lettuces) are now being patented; with use-restricted seeds, a farmer is unable to plant a new crop without purchasing new seed from an outside supplier.

Do you wish to help an organic food system flourish? Do you want varieties that reflect the values and needs of organic gardeners and farmers rather than the interests of multinational seed companies— many of which are also the singular largest producers of pesticides and herbicides?

Enter the global movement to maintain free access to plant genetic resources. The Open Source Seed Initiative or OSSI [https://osseeds.org/] was created to counterbalance the trend towards patenting and restricting the use of seeds and the ancient rights of farmers and gardeners who buy them. Buying seed of OSSI (or the Open Source Seed Initiative) varieties, gardeners support breeders, seed growers and seed companies that are collectively committed to freeing the seed from corporate control. They share a solemn vow to keep our food supply secure and genetically diverse for future generations. Join the movement for seed sovereignty and a diverse, open source, accessible food system for all. In this episode, Jack Kloppenburg shares how we can create and sustain an equitable food system that celebrates the legacy and potential of a single seed.

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Jack Kloppenburg is Professor Emeritus in the Department of Community and Environmental Sociology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He has studied the social impacts of biotechnology, the controversy over control of genetic resources, and the prospects for framing food sheds as an analytical basis for developing sustainable food systems. He is the author of First the Seed: The Political Economy of Plant Biotechnology from Cambridge University Press. He is currently inspired by the potential of food sovereignty and by the possible application of open source principles to plant breeding. He is a founder and board member of the Open Source Seed Initiative (OSSI) [https://osseeds.org/] which advocates the use of ”copyleft” approaches to “free the seed” from corporate control.

Carry Kim, Co-Host of EcoJustice Radio. An advocate for ecosystem restoration, indigenous lifeways, and a new humanity born of connection and compassion, she is a long-time volunteer for SoCal350, member of Ecosystem Restoration Camps, and a co-founder of the Soil Sponge Collective, a grassroots community organization dedicated to big and small scale regeneration of Mother Earth.

Resources: available at https://osseeds.org/resources/

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Executive Producer and Intro: Jack Eidt

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Engineer and Original Music: Blake Quake Beats

Episode 194

Photo credit: Jack Koppenburg

Margaret Elysia Garcia, author and poet published by El Martillo Press, has spent a couple of decades living in Greenville, a Gold Rush-era Northern California town, that no longer exists as it did in 2021. That’s because it was devoured by the Dixie Fire, one of the largest blazes in California history.

Margaret began writing her poetry collection “Burn Scars” while waiting at traffic stops driving from her mother's house to her former hometown. She grappled with the destructive aftermath that began with a eulogy and ended with a 79 page poetry book memoir.

On this show, we discuss with Margaret how poetry serves as a vehicle to process, mourn, and raise awareness around climate disruption while honoring those on the front lines. She shares her poetry and tells us how a town of marginal incomes, set in dense forests, was almost completely destroyed. Margaret relates how the fire started near a Pacific Gas and Electric power station and spread at an incomprehensible rate as a result of gusty winds and historically dry conditions. Thankfully no lives were lost. But the fire resulted in significant losses of property and livelihoods with major challenges for rebuilding. One thing’s for sure, lots of lessons were learned and stronger community bonds were built.

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Margaret Elysia Garcia [http://www.margaretelysiagarcia.com/]is the author of the short story collection Graft, the poetry chapbook Burn Scars, and the debut poetry collection the daughterland poems. She’s the editor of the forthcoming Red Flag Warning Anthology. She teaches poetry with the Community Literary Initiative and writes a history column for High Country Life magazine in Northeastern California. She’s currently working on her second collection of poems, Watershed, also to be released by El Martillo Press [https://www.elmartillopress.com/margaretelysiagarcia].

Jessica Aldridge, Co-Host and Producer of EcoJustice Radio, is an environmental educator, community organizer, and 15-year waste industry leader. She is a co-founder of SoCal 350, organizer for ReusableLA, and founded Adventures in Waste. She is a former professor of Recycling and Resource Management at Santa Monica College, and an award recipient of the international 2021 Women in Sustainability Leadership and the 2016 inaugural Waste360, 40 Under 40.

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Ep. 193

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In the bestselling book, Drawdown, edited by Paul Hawken, enumerates solutions to our climate crisis in great detail. Of these, composting remains a top priority as it can reduce carbon emissions, as well as improve soil health and fertility, reduce air pollution, restore connection among communities and to Mother Nature. Composting is an essential way we can assist in the restoration and balancing of the hydrological cycle, improve water retention of soil, prevent erosion, and reduce runoff. While cities like Los Angeles have adopted measures that require citizens to separate and recycle organic waste, the great imperative is educating people, particularly the youth who will inherit the Earth, on how to compost successfully to empower our collective future with care and concern for our one and only home.

Cecilie Stuart joins us to share her own journey as a climate advocate and the urgent need to uplift and educate youth as stewards of Earth. Education might take the form of self-expression through climate-related dance, arts and theater programs of Move the World or through composting and "closing the loop" with Full Circle Compost, a non-profit committed to reversing global warming by teaching youth and local communities to compost where they live, from schools to backyards.

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Cecilie Stuart began her career as a professional dancer and actor and has been a climate educator and activist since 2012. She started two non-profit organizations, Move the World [https://www.movetheworldnow.org/], focusing on climate arts, solutions, and education, and Full Circle Compost [https://www.fccompost.org/], centered on community composting. Cecilie holds multiple sustainability certifications from Santa Monica College, has taught land stewardship for 10 years at Los Angeles public and private K-12 schools and is a climate consultant for Boys and Girls Club of Malibu and for the Santa Monica Malibu School District.

Carry Kim, Co-Host of EcoJustice Radio. An advocate for ecosystem restoration, indigenous lifeways, and a new humanity born of connection and compassion, she is a long-time volunteer for SoCal350, member of Ecosystem Restoration Camps, and a co-founder of the Soil Sponge Collective, a grassroots community organization dedicated to big and small scale regeneration of Mother Earth.

Executive Producer and Intro: Jack Eidt

Hosted by Carry Kim

Engineer and Original Music: Blake Quake Beats

Episode 192

Photo credit: Cecilie Stuart

On this show, we discuss how we can revolutionize architecture and landscape design by emulating Nature’s genius. Our guest, Ecological Architect Carl Welty [https://carlweltyarchitects.com/], paints a picture of ancient cities oriented to the sun’s movements, capturing its energy without machines. Modern city design often ignores the natural context, the flow of water, sensitive ecological habitats, in favor of geometric patterns – with problematic implications for the complex web of nature’s closed-loop systems. Carl Welty sees solutions to our climate and environmental messes through ecological design.

Employing simple passive solar design strategies like orienting buildings south, using overhangs and thermal mass, makes homes and offices 50% to 80% more efficient while costing the same.

In fact, timeless techniques from ancient and Indigenous societies that mimic Nature’s design offer a resilience that is key to a truly sustainable, regenerative architecture. Thus we can build communities that generate – instead of consume – more resources (energy, water, and building materials), and at the same time restore native habitat.

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Carl Welty. Ecological Architect and Principal of Carl Welty Architects [https://carlweltyarchitects.com/]. has over 35 years of experience in the field of architecture and is based in Southern California. Carl's experience includes projects with difficult sites and complex structural requirements; a passive solar house that is Certified LEED Platinum; a Water Education campus that embodies important and timely water issues. He designs buildings that are twice as energy-efficient as typical green buildings by incorporating simple, time-tested, climate-appropriate design principles.

Jack Eidt is an urban planner, environmental journalist, and climate organizer, as well as award-winning fiction writer. He is Co-Founder of SoCal 350 Climate Action and Executive Producer of EcoJustice Radio. He is also Founder and Publisher of WilderUtopia [https://wilderutopia.com], a website dedicated to the question of Earth sustainability, finding society-level solutions to environmental, community, economic, transportation and energy needs.

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Engineer and Original Music: Blake Quake Beats

Episode 191

On this show, we discuss ancestral foodways and the continuance as well as the reclaiming of authentic, Indigenous cuisine. Indigenous peoples often remind us: we are still here. Their lifeways and food creation have not "left," but are still present through the fierce devotion and commitment of intergenerational knowledge keepers. Food is a way of knowing, a cultural identity and a way to be connected to a community. The Indigenous Food Sovereignty Movement and the increasing prominence of Indigenous chefs across Turtle Island are inspiring many to rediscover and reclaim food as a central part of community health and empowerment.

Founder of the educational, community outreach non-profit Wild Bearies [http://www.wildbearies.org], and Indigenous chef Elena Terry joins us to share from her Ho-Chunk lineage and how Native foods are a sacred means to heal, educate and mentor future generations in the preservation of culture and life itself.

It is imperative for us to remember how Native foodways were deliberately decimated as part of the genocidal history on this continent, and that we can all play a part in supporting the thriving of Indigenous foodways for the benefit of local communities, future generations and the planet itself. Food is memory: a way of remembering that tethers us to Nature, the Ancestors and the entire web of life.

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Elena Terry is Executive Chef and Founder of the nonprofit, Wild Bearies [http://www.wildbearies.org], based in Wisconsin. After having been a traditional foods cook, she started the nonprofit Wild Bearies. She is passionate about representation and building a community around healing and educating through Indigenous foods. Some of her partnerships include the Smithsonian, Food and Ag Organization of the United Nations, Intertribal Ag Council, James Beard Foundation, and the University of Wisconsin.

Carry Kim, Co-Host of EcoJustice Radio. An advocate for ecosystem restoration, indigenous lifeways, and a new humanity born of connection and compassion, she is a long-time volunteer for SoCal350, member of Ecosystem Restoration Camps, and a co-founder of the Soil Sponge Collective, a grassroots community organization dedicated to big and small scale regeneration of Mother Earth.

LINKS

https://civileats.com/2022/11/22/this-mother-daughter-team-is-sharing-food-traditions-from-the-ho-chunk-nation/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elena-terry-voices-in-food_l_61717c33e4b079111a54349c

https://captimes.com/food-drink/chopped-challenges-wisconsin-chef-elena-terry-in-food-network-debut/article_5f437e1f-6da2-5026-86fa-553de8bdefbb.html

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Executive Producer and Intro: Jack Eidt

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Engineer and Original Music: Blake Quake Beats

Episode 190

Photo credit: Elena Terry

Freedom to Roam in Nature is an essential human right. For guest Chad Brown [http://www.Chadocreative.com], mother nature played a significant role in his healing from the war trauma he experienced as a navy service member. In his desire to activate healing through nature, art, and sport, he founded two non profits, Soul River Inc. and Love is King and explores storytelling through his photography and documentary filmmaking.

Soul River Inc. [https://soulriverinc.org/about/] focuses on forging strong connections between at-risk inner city youth and veteran mentors, inspiring both confidence and purpose through their programing. We will discuss how they use cultural expeditions, called deployments, to bring these teams to threatened wild spaces, providing mission-driven experiences where advocacy and outdoor education meet.

For his nonprofit Love Is King [https://loveisking.org/], Chad’s vision is to eliminate the fear of marginalized communities being in nature while developing diverse environmental leaders whose voices are part of natural policy making decisions, such as being at the table of white lead conservation groups. The programing has made them an active voice with the Alaska Wilderness League on protecting the Arctic and their Indigenous communities from oil drilling and development.

Chad is also a documentary-style portrait and adventure photographer, with assignments leading him all over the world, and in particular into the Alaskan Arctic. He also makes films; one in particular is called Blackwaters [https://blackwatersfilm.com/], which follows five black outdoorsmen of diverse backgrounds into Gates of the Arctic National Park.

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Jessica Aldridge, Co-Host and Producer of EcoJustice Radio, is an environmental educator, community organizer, and 15-year waste industry leader. She is a co-founder of SoCal 350, organizer for ReusableLA, and founded Adventures in Waste. She is a former professor of Recycling and Resource Management at Santa Monica College, and an award recipient of the international 2021 Women in Sustainability Leadership and the 2016 inaugural Waste360, 40 Under 40.

Links:

https://www.pdxmonthly.com/travel-and-outdoors/2023/08/blackwaters-documentary-film-premiere-chad-brown-soul-river-inc

https://flylordsmag.com/new-film-blackwaters-with-chad-brown-james-mills/

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Episode 189

Photo credit: Chad Brown

How should we respond to – or better yet, cope with the extreme climate weirding and environmental collapse we keep seeing and reading about everywhere? In lieu of an immobilizing depression we must look to what is ALSO happening out there - the conservation and environmental justice success stories. Movements and advocacy that we frankly try to cover on this show every week, although we plead guilty to sharing some of the gloom and doom. But what about the communities banding together to heal the land and their relationship with it? Restoring ecosystems that benefit people in their neighborhoods, wildlife in their habitats, as well as energize government and private industry – maybe actually working together for a change.

Some have even argued that storytelling is a sort of climate action. We spoke with Jared Lipworth, Executive Producer of a new documentary series called Wild Hope [https://www.wildhope.tv/] available on the web and on PBS, based on Andrew Balmford's book of the same name. It endeavors to tell the stories of ordinary people leading a collaborative environmental recovery in the face of extinctions, superstorms, and climate tipping points.

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Jared Lipworth is Executive Producer of Wild Hope [https://www.wildhope.tv/] and other productions at HHMI Tangled Bank Studios [https://www.tangledbankstudios.org/], including the recently-released Giant Screen film: “The Blue Whale: Return of the Giants.” Jared also heads up the outreach department at Tangled Bank, where he oversees national impact campaigns designed to foster better local appreciation and understanding of science and nature.

Jack Eidt is an urban planner, environmental journalist, and climate organizer, as well as award-winning fiction writer. He is Co-Founder of SoCal 350 Climate Action and Executive Producer of EcoJustice Radio. He is also Founder and Publisher of WilderUtopia [https://wilderutopia.com], a website dedicated to the question of Earth sustainability, finding society-level solutions to environmental, community, economic, transportation and energy needs.

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Photo credit: Wild Hope TV

The fossil fuel industry has been promoting hydrogen as a reliable, low carbon, next-generation fuel to power cars, heat homes, and generate electricity. However, currently 99% of the annual supply of hydrogen comes from fracked methane gas. So will switching to hydrogen only lock us into continued fossil fuel use and additional investments in fossil fuel infrastructure?

Proponents argue that when hydrogen is made using renewable power it can cut climate-warming industrial carbon pollution from the steel, oil, and agricultural industries. However, does hydrogen measure up when compared to powering our cars and homes with alternative renewable energy generated directly from wind and solar?

In this encore presentation, Ashley Kosak, 2022 Research and Project Management Fellow with FracTracker Alliance [https://www.fractracker.org/], explains how hydrogen is generated, transported, stored, and burned; the environmental and social impacts; and what it means for the future of clean energy.

Listen to the extended interview: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ashley-kosak-on-77020057

Ashley Kosak is a mechanical engineer who started her career as an engineer at SpaceX. She is an advocate for decarbonization for energy and aerospace, consumption reduction, and social advocacy. She worked with FracTracker Alliance to distill complex emerging technologies into a simple process that can be understood by anyone who wishes to be informed of shifts within the clean energy movement.

Jessica Aldridge, Co-Host and Producer of EcoJustice Radio, is an environmental educator, community organizer, and 15-year waste industry leader. She is a co-founder of SoCal 350, organizer for ReusableLA, and founded Adventures in Waste. She is a former professor of Recycling and Resource Management at Santa Monica College, and an award recipient of the international 2021 Women in Sustainability Leadership and the 2016 inaugural Waste360, 40 Under 40.

More Info/Resources:

Greenwashing Hydrogen Webinar with Ashley: https://halttheharm.net/2022/12/greenwashing-hydrogen-understanding-the-climate-risks-of-blue-hydrogen/

Ashley on her time at SpaceX: https://www.lioness.co/post/at-spacex-we-re-told-we-can-change-the-world-just-don-t-try-to-stop-the-sexual-harassment

Related Shows: On Building Decarbonization/Home Electrification: https://wilderutopia.com/ecojustice-radio/zerohouz-ditching-fossil-fuels-for-a-zero-emissions-home/

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Guest: Ashley Kosak

Executive Producer: Jack Eidt

Host and Producer: Jessica Aldridge

Engineer and Original Music: Blake Quake Beats