A Podcast of One's Own with Julia Gillard

Ed Miliband on how to support men to share the care


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A remarkably similar proportion of mums and dads would like to work flexibly to spend more time with their children – yet mothers are much more likely to work part-time than fathers. These patterns can be ingrained early. In the UK, fathers and non-childbearing parents are eligible to take up to 50 weeks of shared parental leave, but estimates for uptake vary from just 0.5% to 8%. These unequal divisions of parental care and flexible working are significant drivers of the gender pay gap. So, what can we do to fix them and better support men to share the care?


In this bonus episode – a recording from a GIWL event last year – Julia is joined by a panel of experts to discuss these issues:


  • Ed Miliband, Shadow Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, and the author of Go Big: How To Fix Our World
  • Shoshana Davidson, Principal Advisor, Equalities, Diversity & Inclusion at the Behavioural Insights Team
  • Drew Gibson, Senior Manager for Inclusion at Santander UK


For more information, you can download Shoshana’s presentation from the event here: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/giwl/assets/share-the-care-event-slides.pdf

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