Kalinda and Michelle met at a community high school almost 20 years ago. One was an outgoing, charismatic student and the other a no-nonsense science teacher with a reputation for holding students to the highest expectations. Over the years, Michelle transitioned from student to teacher and Kalinda transitioned from high school teacher to professor.  They kept in touch and developed a friendship that is grounded in a deep commitment to each other's growth, the experiences of educators, and transformation in education. In this episode, they discuss examples of people and experiences that had a deep impact on their lives. This episode is dedicated to the memory of Earl Lemons.