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Welcome back to America's leading higher education law podcast, EdUp Legal - part of the EdUp Experience Podcast Network! In this episode, we hear from Meera E. Deo, Professor of Law at Southwestern Law School, Los Angeles.

Professor Meera E. Deo, J.D., Ph.D., from Southwestern Law School in Los Angeles, is a national expert on legal education, racial representation, diversity, equity and inclusion, and also serves as the Director of the Law School Survey of Student Engagement (LSSSE) based at Indiana University-Bloomington. Professor Deo discusses the results of the research for her book, Unequal Profession: Race and Gender in Legal Academia, which examines how race and gender affect faculty and student interactions, as well as tenure/promotion, institutional support and work/life balance. Professor Deo shares her recent work building on her initial studies, research that explores the negative impact that COVID-19 has had on the legal academy, including the disproportionate challenges faced by women and faculty of color. In her role as Director of the LSSSE, she gives a preview of the troubling results forthcoming in this year's annual survey, one that is uniquely poised to provide insight into the experiences of COVID-19 law students. Professor Deo concludes with her opinions regarding what the future of legal education is likely to be, and what it should aspire to be. 

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Welcome back to America's leading higher education law podcast, EdUp Legal - part of the EdUp Experience Podcast Network! In this episode, we hear from Dean Hari M. Osofsky, Northwestern Pritzker School of Law. 

Hari M. Osofsky is the Dean and Myra James Bradwell Professor of Law at Northwestern Pritzker School of Law, and Professor of Environmental Policy and Culture at the Weinberg College of Arts and Sciences, positions she has held since summer 2021. Prior to that, she was dean at Penn State Law and Penn State School of International Affairs, serving as a Distinguished Professor of Law, and Professor of International Affairs and of Geography during her four-year tenure at Penn State. Dean Osofsky discusses her reasons for becoming a lawyer and a dean, and for her recent switch to Northwestern during the continuing pandemic. She shares her deep commitment to issues of diversity, equity, inclusion, and social and racial justice, and the numerous roles she has played in advancing collaborative projects across universities and law schools that can address those issues on a systemic level. Dean Osofsky describes her leadership style, the efforts that have aided in keeping a sense of community and gratitude at two different law schools, and her exploration of the intersection of law and technology and how it might address access to justice. She concludes with her expectations for the evolution of legal education in the coming decade.

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Welcome back to America's leading higher education law podcast, EdUp Legal - part of the EdUp Experience Podcast Network! In this episode, we hear from Deborah Jones Merritt, Distinguished Professor of Law Emerita, at The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law. 

Join us as Deborah Jones Merritt, Distinguished Professor of Law Emerita, at The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, discusses her unusual path to clerking with two historic and iconic justices, Judge (later Justice) Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, and Justice Sandra Day O'Connor on the U.S. Supreme Court, and select lessons learned from each. Professor Merritt discusses her nationwide empirical study with colleagues at the Institute for the Advancement of the American Legal System (IAALS) that resulted in Building a Better Bar, funded by AccessLex. The study convened 50 focus groups of legal professionals, educators and students across the country in an attempt to identify the skills needed for practice, and what should be measured to determine entry to the Bar. Professor Merritt opines on the value of clinical education as a measure of readiness to be a member of the Bar, and recounts her own impactful experiences as a doctrinal faculty member supervising a criminal defense and prosecutorial clinic, respectively. Those experiences, the study, her scholarship, and work with the ABA's Commission on the Future of Legal Education make her an ideal guest to share predictions on the future of legal education, what it will be, and what it should be.

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Welcome back to America's leading higher education law podcast, EdUp Legal - part of the EdUp Experience Podcast Network! In this episode, we hear from Daniel M. Filler, Dean of Drexel University Thomas R. Kline School of Law.

Dean Daniel M. Filler shares with us the inspirational story of the creation of the Drexel University Thomas R. Kline School of Law less than 20 years ago, and its focus on experiential learning, teaching, and community. Dean Filler discusses his experience in criminal law and the intersectionality of law and technology, and how it informs his leadership as dean. This episode was recorded on the same day that the Kline School of Law announced its new Center for Law and Transformational Technology, an interdisciplinary hub for research and teaching related to legal issues and technology, including blockchain, AI, and neural technology. Dean Filler also predicts how legal education is likely to change, and what will stay the same.

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Welcome back to America's leading higher education law podcast, EdUp Legal - part of the EdUp Experience Podcast Network! In this episode, we hear from Leah Teague, Professor of Law and Director of Business Law Programs at Baylor University School of Law.  

You will learn from Professor Teague about her participation in creating a movement in legal education that supports the incorporation of leadership and professional development training across the curriculum, and the importance of preparing law students for their roles as leaders, problem solvers, and influencers in their communities.  

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Welcome back to America's leading higher education law podcast, EdUp Legal - part of the EdUp Experience Podcast Network! In this episode, we hear from Dean Michael Hunter Schwartz from the University of Pacific's McGeorge School of Law in California. 

You will learn from Dean Schwartz about the inspiration for his acclaimed scholarship and work in teaching and learning, and the evolution of his approach to curricular design, and his implementation of learning theory into the teaching of law. He discusses his book What the Best Law Teachers Do, and the consistent qualities he identified across those featured in the book, and his book, Contracts: A Context and Practice Casebook, was the first in a modernized law textbook series that he designed and now edits. Dean Schwartz also shares the impressive progress McGeorge School of Law has made over the last four years in entering and graduating metrics, as well as fundraising.  

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Welcome back to America's leading higher education law podcast, EdUp Legal - part of the EdUp Experience Podcast Network! In this episode, we hear from Angela Winfield, Chief Diversity Officer of The Law School Admission Council (LSAC).

You will learn from Angela Winfield about her inspirational journey to practicing law and ultimately, to her current position at LSAC, where she provides leadership in developing a unified philosophy to their diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts. At LSAC, Ms. Winfield builds on her prior experience as associate vice president for inclusion and workforce diversity at Cornell University, where her responsibilities included leading the university’s affirmative action and federal contractor compliance programs. Ms. Winfield's authentic experience and reflection remind us of the importance of having a profession where all future lawyers can see themselves represented and shares what LSAC is doing to help achieve that vision.

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Welcome back to America's leading higher education law podcast, EdUp Legal - part of the EdUp Experience Podcast Network! In this episode, your guest is Neil Hamilton, Holloran Professor of Law and Co-director of the Holloran Center for Ethical Leadership in the Professions at St. Thomas School of Law.  

You will learn from Professor Hamilton about the need for law schools to help law students form professional identities, and a blueprint for law school faculty and staff to incorporate that professional development and formation throughout the curriculum. Professor Hamilton describes the key transitions during which students benefit from reflection and coaching, and calls for expanded competency-based education in law schools, much like that already utilized in the health professions.

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Welcome back to America's leading higher education law podcast, EdUp Legal - part of the EdUp Experience Podcast Network! St. Mary's University School of Law will welcome the first class in the only fully online J.D. program accredited by the American Bar Association in fall 2022. Listen to Zoe Niesel, Associate Dean for Academic Affairs, and Colin Marks, Associate Dean for Strategic Partnerships and Innovation, as they discuss the best practices incorporated into the planning of the program, the process required for approval, the non-pandemic reasons St. Mary's decided to create the fully online J.D. program, and its likely role in the evolution of legal education.

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Welcome back to America's leading higher education law podcast, EdUp Legal - part of the EdUp Experience Podcast Network! In this episode, we hear from Kellye Y. Testy, President and CEO of The Law School Admission Council (LSAC).

You will learn from Kellye Testy about her experience as dean of two law schools and President of the AALS, and how those roles inform her current work at LSAC, where her team focuses on increasing access to the profession and serving as a Law Hub that supports law school applicants to J.D., LL.M. and other law programs. Ms. Testy's skill and innovation in leading nonprofit LSAC leverages technology to provide support to higher education institutions and leading organizations in law, education, and business, to promote universal access to justice.

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