Bryce sits down with author and former social worker Elaine Ellinger to explore her perspective on Islam, a topic she argues is often misunderstood—or avoided entirely—in Western discourse.

Drawing from decades of personal research and her book A Civilizational Reckoning, Ellinger shares how a formative experience with a refugee from the Iranian Revolution sparked her deep dive into Islamic doctrine, culture, and global influence. The conversation covers the role of education, media narratives, and political systems in shaping public perception, as well as the challenges of discussing religion in today’s climate.

Ellinger outlines her view of Islam as more than a religion—describing it as a comprehensive system that intersects with law, governance, and daily life—and explains why she believes this distinction matters. She also introduces her proposed “threshold” framework for evaluating belief systems within Western democracies, aimed at aligning them with universal human rights standards.

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