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Elif Shafak has a way of writing that's lush and enchanted. She writes about real things in the world: water, houseboats, ordinary things that we stopped seeing. And she infuses them with life and wonder so that we can see the world fresh again.

Elif has written more than 21 books, and she's the president of the Royal Society of Literature, which has had fellows like J. R. R. Tolkien, Rudyard Kipling, W.B. Yeats, and Margaret Atwood.

You'll notice that her writing advice is different from what you normally hear. She wants to help you splash your personality onto the page, how to write with soul, and how to unlock your wild imagination to do it day in and day out until you're left with a finished piece of writing.

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:02 Making small things feel enchanted

00:04:39 How to avoid fake wonder

00:07:22 Elif’s writing routine

00:09:13 Writing at night

00:11:11 How heavy metal helps writing

00:18:07 What makes characters feel real

00:19:55 Fixing a story

00:22:15 Writing like children

00:26:09 Which senses matter most

00:32:32 Taking risks after being successful

00:34:12 Soft vs hard writing

00:38:59 Elif’s editing process

00:43:27 How poetry influences her writing

00:48:30 What English can’t express

00:51:46 Writing as if you’re “drunk”

00:55:04 Why freedom comes first

00:57:04 Lessons from favorite writers

01:06:44 Rumi’s influence

01:10:22 Spirituality vs religion

01:15:07 How cities shape writers

01:17:11 James Baldwin’s influence

01:18:22 Melancholy and humor

About the host

Hey! I’m David Perell and I’m a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible.

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