Andrew Lenards illuminates the liminal spaces of his mind, from lo-fi, DIY, punk rock, meditation, & coaching to Joël's Triangle & The Mental Side of Programming.

Thanks to our sponsor, Logistically. Email: [email protected].

Music by Jesse Moore.

Recording date: 2024.03.05.

Guest

• Andrew Lenards

Show notes[00:00:25] Sponsored by Logistically[00:00:58] Introducing Andrew

• "Is This the Way?" with Aaron Michael Marsh and Andy Lenards
• The Do Nothing Projectwith Jeff Warren
• "The Mental Side of Programming"

[00:01:32] Wrestling announcer Elm Town intro[00:04:44] From Julian Pistorius: Side roads with crucial impact

• Elm Town 66 – A gateway to scientific research with Chris Martin

[00:11:30] Helping others see between the paving stones

• "Periodic Face-to-Face" by Martin Fowler
• xkcd

[00:25:02] Discovering Elm, or "I don't want to know that there's a better way to do what I'm doing right now"

• "Beating the averages" by Paul Graham

[00:35:05] Elm & mental health

• "Make Reliable Web Apps Without JS Fatigue" by Jared M. Smith
• Elm Slack
• "Idée Fixe" by David Nolen at GOTO 2017
• Against the Rules Season 2 hosted by Michael Lewis

[00:55:17] Joël's Triangle

• Andrew's elm-arboriculture-zine (print it yourself!)
• Joël Quenneville on Thoughtbot

[00:58:57] PicksAndrew's picks

• Against the Rules Season 2 hosted by Michael Lewis
• Create Content with ChatGPT and AI 2024 course by Kirby Ferguson
• Empathy-Driven Development
• Empathy in Tech
• "Type System Mythbusting with Alexis King" on Software Unscripted with Richard Feldman

Jared's picks

• Elm Town 57 – Brilliant ways to use Elm with Aaron Strick
• Just Let Go (YouTube) by Sturgill Simpson
• Zen Computer by Philip Toshio Sudo
• Pleasures of Small Motions: Mastering the Mental Game of Pocket Billiards by Bob Fancher
• Elm 3D Pool Game Collaboration

Taylor Troesh recounts his trip across the stack, from the front to the back and back again. Along the way, he divulges his custom operator confession. He currently works at Replenysh using Elm for sustainability.

Thanks to our sponsor, Logistically. Email: [email protected].

Music by Jesse Moore.

Recording date: 2024.02.08

Guest

• Taylor Troesh

Show notes[00:00:30] Sponsored by Logistically[00:00:58] Introducing Taylor

• taylor.town
• surprisetalk/elm-burma
• "Why I Use Elm in 2023"
• Elm Land

[00:01:57] The beginning of computing[00:09:18] Discovering Elm

• Don't make things worse! - Changelog Episode #546 with Taylor
• Elm and Functional Programming - Changelog episode #218 with Evan Czaplicki & Richard Feldman

[00:14:31] Opinions on styling options

• surprisetalk/elm-burma
• Matthew Griffith's elm-ui
• Richard Feldman's elm-css
• "Frugly vs. Freemium"
• The "cheap" web

[00:22:49] Custom operator confession

• surprisetalk/elm-pointless
• Kagi ❤️

[00:26:59] Building a crypto wallet[00:28:14] All the way to the back[00:30:36] The Great Wall of Code[00:36:50] Elm folks on the backend[00:41:13] Pairing learning experiences with deliverables[00:45:39] The new Elm job

• Replenysh
• PostGraphile

[00:49:15] Why I didn't play this harpsichord sooner

• "why I didn’t play this harpsichord sooner"
• Candid Culture
• https://taylor.town

[00:57:41] PicksTaylor's picks

• Cradle to Cradle by  William McDonough & Michael Braungart
• The Timeless Way of Building by Christopher Alexander
• https://elm.town

Jared's pick

• nmesh (Explicit)
• Official Elm Guide

Mario Rogic comes back to interview Jared about his road to Elm, from the Tandy to JavaScript fatigue, and the inevitable, relieving discovery of Elm. The love for Elm never stops.

Thanks to our sponsor, Logistically. Email: [email protected].

Music by Jesse Moore.

Recording date: 2024.02.05

Guest

• Jared M. Smith

Show notes[00:00:28] Sponsored by Logistically[00:00:54] The exclusive wrap

• Elm Town 68 – Shared joy with Mario Rogic

[00:01:55] Getting started in computing & programming

• Elm Town 65 – Let's roll with it with Jeroen Engles
• Elm Town 66 – A gateway to scientific research with Chris Martin

[00:08:09] Informing the path to Elm

• "Solving the Boolean Identity Crisis" by Jeremy Fairbank
• "Mogee or how we fit Elm in a 64×64 grid" by Andrey Kuzmin
• Elm Town 61 – Turning the pages with Dillon Kearns

[00:15:39] JavaScript fatigue[00:21:24] elm-pool

• https://github.com/w0rm/elm-pool
• https://jaredmsmith.com/dev/elm-pool-collaboration

[00:25:34] Why did you choose to introduce Elm at work?[00:30:13] Failing to introduce functional programming at work

• "How to Use Elm at Work" by Evan Czaplicki

[00:34:31] Elm at Logistically

• Simon Lydell's elm-watch
• Matthew Griffith's elm-codegen
• Wolfgang Schuster's elm-open-api

[00:37:42] Meta Elm Town

• Elm Town 72 – 435 million reasons to love Elm + Elixir with Erik Person

[00:43:26] Hit record vibe shift

• Elm Radio
• Zed (May 2024 Jared's daily driver)

[00:48:01] PicksJared's pick

• MDN

Mario's picks

• Nix
• Lamdera

Nduati Kuria shares his journey from studying AI to why Matthew Griffith's elm-ui makes the web approachable. He explains how an innocuous issue on Tereza Sokol's elm-charts led to a new job.

Thanks to our sponsor, Logistically. Email: [email protected].

Music by Jesse Moore.

Recording date: 2023.11.10

Guest

• Nduati Kuria

Show notes[00:00:20] Sponsored by Logistically[00:00:52] Introducing Nduati

• Qoda
• Elm Town 36 – The Risk of Elm
• Elm Town 55 – From algorithms & animation to building a decentralized finance app
• ArtCulture
• Haruki Murakami Website UI
• WebGL Sculpture Animation site about Marcus Aurelius

[00:01:42] Getting started

• "How to teach programming (and other things)?" by Felienne Hermans at Strange Loop 2019

[00:05:58] Nduati's College Journey: Swift, Internships, and Elm Discovery[00:08:27] Learning Elm: It actually fits in my brain

• elm-ui

[00:13:03] Uber for school buses[00:16:59] How Elm drives you toward best practices

• Elm Town 67 – Breaking things down with Gingko Writer

[00:23:28] Introducing Elm at work[00:25:36] Master's & self-directed learning[00:28:09] From elm-charts to Qoda

• Tereza Sokol's elm-charts

[00:34:53] The rigour of programming with Elm at Qoda[00:39:55] Ports

• "The Importance of Ports" by Murphy Randle at Strange Loop 2017
• Elm Radio
• A demo of Qoda and an explanation of how we use ports by Dwayne Crooks

[00:47:14] Haruki Murakami site animation

• Haruki Murakami Website UI

[00:50:07] Not having to pay the cost of constant change

• Tereza Sokol's elm-charts

[00:54:33] PicksNduati's picks

• "Parse, don’t validate" by Alexis King
• "Drag & Drop without Draggables & Dropzones" by Jasper Woudenberg
• Matthew Griffith's elm-ui

Jared's picks

• Elm Radio on opaque types
  • Intro to Opaque Types
  • Deliberate Practice
  • ...and in most other episodes 😊
• elm-doc-preview

Erik Person shares how he joined Corvus Insurance as the first engineer building the system from scratch with Elm and Elixir. We talk about onboarding, culture, and growing the team. He exclaims his excitement for the next phase of acquisition by Travelers.

Thanks to our sponsor, Logistically. Email: [email protected].

Music by Jesse Moore.

Recording date: 2023.12.05

Guest

• Erik Person

Show notes[00:00:22] Sponsored by Logistically[00:00:52] Introducing Erik

• Elm seeds
• Travelers to Acquire Corvus Insurance

[00:01:20] Getting started[00:07:27] The flight to Elm[00:12:43] Elm seeds[00:17:14] Why Elm at Corvus?

• "The Python Paradox" by Paul Graham
• "Make Impossible States Impossible" by Richard Feldman

[00:21:57] Hiring & onboarding practices[00:24:09] Scaling

• Aaron VonderHaar's elm-format

[00:27:49] Static Elm + dynamic Elixir

• Luke Westby's elm-http-builder

[00:34:32] Programming the plane[00:38:58] Corvus engineering culture

• Forbes' list of "America’s Best Startup Employers"

[00:43:59] Acquisition

• Travelers to Acquire Corvus Insurance
• Travelers Completes Acquisition of Corvus Insurance

[00:48:34] PicksErik's picks

• "Interesting bugs caught by no-constant-binary-expression" by Jordan Eldredge
• "Training AI to Play Pokemon with Reinforcement Learning" by Peter Whidden
• The Data Warehouse Toolkit by Ralph Kimball and Margy Ross

Jared's pick

• Jeroen Engels' elm-review

Lindsay Wardell tells how she persevered to write her own story as a programmer and shares her views on JavaScript frameworks & fatigue.

Thanks to our sponsor, Logistically. Email: [email protected].

Music by Jesse Moore.

Recording date: 2023.11.06

Guest

• Lindsay Wardell

Show notes[00:00:20] Sponsored by Logistically[00:00:49] Introducing Lindsay

• Human Side of Dev
• Elm and Vite on Elm Radio, hosted by Dillon Kearns & Jeroen Engels
• Functional programming with Elm on PodRocket, hosted by Paul Mikulskis
• Functional and Object-Oriented Programming on Software Unscripted, hosted by Richard Feldman
• "Functional Programming in Vite" at ViteConf 2023
• elm-vue-bridge
• vite-elm-template.

[00:01:54] Getting started in computing and programming[00:06:06] A break in Brazil

"How to teach programming (and other things)?" by Felienne Hermans

[00:09:27] Getting back into programming

Functional and Object-Oriented Programming on Software Unscripted, hosted by Richard Feldman...again

[00:18:55] Why Elm?

Juralen

Functional and Object-Oriented Programming on Software Unscripted, hosted by Richard Feldman...yet again. Seriously, it's good.

[00:28:06] The road to NoRedInk

Wikifunctions

Views on Vue

S08E014 Modern Web Podcast - Elm with Richard Feldman

[00:33:05] JavaScript fatigue[00:38:04] Standardization around Vite[00:41:13] The challenge of legacy code at NoRedInk

noredink-ui

Elm Land

elm-pages

[00:46:22] Star Commander

Star Commander (GitHub)

Elm Town 63 – Opening the doors of functional programming

[00:53:47] What are you excited about?

• Lamdera
• "The Economics of Programming Languages" by Evan Czaplicki at Strange Loop 2023

[00:55:50] PicksLindsay's picks

Nuxt

NaNoWriMo (National Novel Writing Month)

Blood on the Clocktower

Babylon 5

Jared's picks

Battlestar Galactica

S2E2 - "One Moore", Portlandia

Feel It All Around by Washed Out

Jim Carlson shares his discoveries in software development through the people he's met in the community and the projects he's building. We also discuss how a history in mathematics shapes his work.

Thanks to our sponsor, Logistically. Email: [email protected].

Music by Jesse Moore.

Recording date: 2023.10.13

Guest

• Jim Carlson

Show notes[00:00:16] Sponsored By Logistically[00:00:45] Introducing Jim

• "Making a LaTeX-to-Html parser in Elm" at Elm Europe 2018
• jxxcarlson/meenylatex
• "Tarring files with Elm" at Oslo Elm Day 2019
• jxxcarlson/elm-tar
• jxxcarlson/elm-markdown
• jxxcarlson/elm-l0-parser
• Random Exchange Model
• Schelling’s segregation model
• "Making Elm Talk to Your Personal Supercomputer" at elm-conf 2019
• Fake Drum Language App
• https://scripta.io
• Elm Notebook
• Elm Town 29 - Knode.io with Jim Carlson in 2018 w/Murphy Randle

[00:02:10] History in Mathematics[00:04:27] Serious software development[00:06:37] Getting out of the basement

• Matthew Griffith's elm-ui
• Lamdera

[00:09:59] Problem-solving approaches[00:14:43] Scripta.io[00:19:25] Learning Haskell[00:24:40] Elm Notebook

Booklib.io

elm-in-elm/compiler

Minibill's elm-interpreter

Elm Land 🌈

[00:31:50] Simulations

Futhark

Designing Compilers for Speed with Troels Henriksen on Software Unscripted with Richard Feldman

[00:41:05] Fake drum language app[00:45:40] Inspiration for work[00:49:30] PicksJim's picks

• Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs (SICP) by Harold Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman with Julie Sussman
• The Mythical Man-Month by Fred Brooks

Jared's picks

• "The Economics of Programming Languages" by Evan Czaplicki at Strange Loop 2023
• In Pursuit of the Unknown by Ian Stewart
• Things to make and do in the 4th dimension by Matt Parker
• Vsauce on YouTube by Michael Stevens

Simon Lydell tells his origin story from Firefox power user to full-time Elm engineer. Then we talk about his work in the community building tools & contributing to core.

Thanks to our sponsor, Logistically. Email: [email protected].

Music by Jesse Moore.

Recording date: 2023.10.09

Guest

• Simon Lydell

Show notes[00:00:25] Sponsored by Logistically[00:00:56] Introducing Simon

• Elm node-test-runner
• lydell/elm-app-url
• Elm Radio 77 – elm-app-url with Simon Lydell
• elm-tooling
• Elm Radio 22 – elm-tooling with Simon Lydell
• elm-watch
• Elm Radio 65 – elm-watch with Simon Lydell

[00:01:43] Origins in computing

• "My Contribution to the Left-Pad Incident with Simon Lydell" on the Software Unscripted podcast
• Elm Town 66 – A gateway to scientific research with Chris Martin

[00:09:08] From messing around with open-source to headhunted[00:14:37] Discovering Elm[00:17:24] Elm syntax as a CoffeeScript programmer[00:19:17] Contributing to big open-source projects early in career[00:22:02] From Elm meetup to full-time developer[00:25:08] Natural growth at Insurello[00:26:28] Pranking the designer[00:29:35] Vision document for elm-watch

• Parcel

[00:34:16] Different catalysts

• elm-live
• elm-go

[00:40:53] elm-watch hot reloading

• elm-watch issue about generating elm-watch.json instead of supporting glob directly

[00:50:43] run-pty

• run-pty

[00:55:51] Core contribution

• Free the npm package from third party dependencies

[01:05:32] What's up with Simon these days?[01:07:41] PicksSimon's pick

• Strange Planet

Jared's pick

• run-pty

Mario Rogic shares his journeys, both physically around the world and strategically, as he built & rebuilt Lamdera.

Thanks to our sponsor, Logistically. Email: [email protected].

Music by Jesse Moore.

Recording date: 2023.09.08

Guest

• Mario Rogic

Show notes[00:00:25] Sponsored by Logistically[00:01:00] Introducing Mario

• Locomote
• Lamdera
• Elm Online
• London meetups
• Elmcraft
• Elm Camp
• Elm Town 59 – Elm Camp with Katja Mordaunt
• "The unbearable weight of glue" at Lambda Days 2023 in Krakow
• Elm Town 18 - Spotlight on Mario Rogic

[00:02:22] Parallel synchronized travel[00:10:25] Out of the blockchain[00:13:52] How Adventure Presenter led to Lamdera

• "Elmception: supercharging presentations with Elm" at Elm Europe 2017)

[00:18:31] More about the Haskell version with Filip Haglund[00:28:13] Communicating the benefits of Lamdera

• Lamdera diagrams clearly explain the benefits

[00:42:02] What's up next with Lamdera?

• Lamdera v1.1.0
• Lamdera v1.2.0
• elm-pages lamdera integration

[00:54:39] LEGO Loco Lamdera

• Elm Town 64 – The network effect with Martin Stewart

[00:57:03] Shared joy in things made on Lamdera[00:58:33] Reflections on Elm Camp[01:02:58] Stoked to see all the cool stuff in the community

• Elmcraft Lore

[01:07:34] PicksMario's picks

• elm-pages scripts
• Elm Land 🌈
• Elm Land Lamdera template

Jared's pick

• Elm Weekly by Wolfgang Schuster

Adriano Ferrari talks about how Elm allows him to solely support Gingko Writer and make progress on new projects while also homeschooling.

Thanks to our sponsor, Logistically. Email: [email protected].

Music by Jesse Moore.

Recording date: 2023.09.08

Guest

• Adriano Ferrari

Show notes[00:00:25] Sponsored by Logistically[00:01:00] Introducing Adriano

• Gingko Writer, open-source on GitHub at gingko/client.

[00:01:19] Getting started in computing[00:03:55] Physics in Canada[00:07:03] Discovering Elm[00:11:30] Perfectionism

• "Tools & Perfectionism" by Adriano Ferrari

[00:15:07] Little leak in your mind

• "Make Reliable Web Apps Without JS Fatigue" by Jared at Detroit Tech Watch 2019

[00:17:25] Overcoming creative blocks

• "Reset Expectations to Overcome Creative Blocks" by Adriano Ferrari

[00:21:38] Breaking things down with Gingko Writer

• Elm Town 61 – Turning the pages with Dillon Kearns

[00:25:19] Challenges building Gingko Writer

Elm Town 64 – The network effect

https://ascii-collab.app

https://town-collab.app

[00:31:43] Homeschooling & solely supporting Gingko Writer[00:37:52] "Frequent changes of treatment"

• "A 'Gradual Commitment' Productivity System"
• "Exploring elm-spa-example" by Richard Feldman at Oslo Elm Day with a section about dependencies

[00:42:13] New, 100% Elm project[00:44:22] PicksAdriano's picks

• Simon Lydell's elm-watch
• Simon Lydell's elm-app-url
• ONYX BOOX Note Air 2 Plus

Jared's picks

• Stretchly
• Yoga 🧘
• Gingko Writer