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Today we discuss the causes of the Civil War. Let’s dive in.
Abe Lincoln - Do your own research here - ALSO your next essay
- Ricky- I read Bill O'reilly’s book on Lincoln and his assassination so this should be fun. Lincoln was a man of his word, and After he signed the emancipation proclamation he was called an ape because of his giant ears and beard and because of the south’s/confederate pro slavery additude. Abraham lincoln was born on February 12th 1809 in the town of Hodgenville Kentucky. In his early years he lived in a cabin and became a lawyer in his adult life. In the last episode we covered the lincoln debates so that was obviously a part of his life.
Ethan- Abe Lincoln was the 16th president. He served in office from 1861-1865 when he was assassinated. He was 1 of the main political leaders during the Civil War. Most likely because he was the president at the time but who cares? He saved the Union from Civil War. He self-taught himself many things because he was too far away from a school and if I remember correctly he was too poor as well. He was the first Republican presidentBen -He was a politically important member of the Whig party, then whigs switched to Republican in 1854. He was the first republican president, too. He died on April 15, 1865. (56 yrs old) Thomas Lincoln watched his father died, and had to run and eventually got to his family in Kentucky. Hunter- what I am surprised about is no one has mentioned that Abe Lincoln was assassinated and who ever wrote the notes above mine the date is on the dot. Oh wait… Ethan wrote that he was assassinated well ok… I have to say Abe Lincoln you lived an exciting last few years of your life I have major respect for you ✌ Believe It! (heheh naruto memes) the fact that he pretty much taught himself most everything he knew and the same as Andrew Jackson he pretty much started with nothing and worked his way up in the ranks and even won the Civil war.Gabe - Lincoln was a dedicated man he lost when he went to challenge stevens for a spot in the senate but most people saw him increasing his chance to become president later on also competing with stevens.- Blake - Abraham Lincoln was an interesting man most people focus on his presidency but I will focus on before then. Lincoln was born into a one room log cabin in Illinois. His mother had died when he was young so he was raised for awhile by his dad while his mother was alive she was able to teach Lincoln to read sadly after her death his father saw no reason to teach him to read. Lincoln had been taught unknowingly by his father the gift of speech and how to use speech to convey a meaning.- skylar - E-mailed this to mrs. barnes.Slavery and the Missouri Compromise
- Skylar - People in free states were worried about slavery because if they wanted to move West there would more than likely not be any land for them to buy because rich slave owners bought it all. You cannot compete with free labor. Even if there was land for you to buy you would probably have to purchase a few slaves to even compete with the rich slave holders. If you were paying people to work you’d be making pretty much nothing off your crops when slave holders could take in all the profit they make because they don’t have to pay them to work. In 1860 the most valuable thing you could own was slaves. The slave holders didn’t want a new state like Missouri to become a free state because all their money was tied up in slavery, once your surrounded by free states chances are your state will soon become free too.
-Ethan- The North basically against slavery and were worried about the South’s greed blinding them to what was right. The North was also worried that is they moved west they wouldn’t be able to get land that a rich slave owner had or they wouldn’t be able to compete with them. This happened to Lincoln’s father once, when he moved to Indiana he couldn’t find land, and then moved to Illinois. So in turn the South was worried about a new state becoming free because the North would gain power and might vote to outlaw slavery. - Blake - There sure is a lot of slavery topics i’m basically repeating information anyways let’s get started. Slavery was a hard topic to talk about as it was huge to the economy it couldn’t be all stopped at once. A person who was against slavery had trouble competing because land in the north just wasn’t really farmable and the parts that was useable was taken.Ben- Like we talked about last time when the US got more land (which was happening a lot at that time) it had to decide if it’s free or a slave state. I think all these debates about that subject was stirred on by the Louisiana purchase. And like skylar said, since the labor was practically free if you owned a slave, it was almost an infinite supply of money if they had a lot of slaves. Hunter- oh boy… we are back on this topic. Guess who’s back back back, back again gain gain, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, back again. Yep that is right we are back on slavery. Like everyone has probably stated: slavery was a big thing in the economy and ending slavery was pretty much destroying the economy. Now the Missouri Compromise was congress trying to make Missouri permit slavery back in late 1819 at the time the U.S. contained twenty-two states, evenly divided between slave and free.Gabe - the missouri compromise was made so that when missouri became a stateThe south wanted it to be a slave state so they didnt in the future lose everything
They had been working for because all those plantations with slaves if states
Started becoming free states so would there state and economy would crash in a
Way because of all the slaves working to the economy
- Ricky: Well everyone seems to have taken most topics so I’ll talk about Henry clay. Henry clay was the “architect” of the missouri compromise. The missouri compromise was practically built by Henry clay and the compromise was “If we give you missouri, then we get main as a free state.
Increasing political battles over slavery in the mid-1800s
- Skylar - As the United States grow and develop the higher tension became between the slave states as well as the free states. The slave states wanted them to become slave states and the free states wanted them to become free states. It would mean more free work if they became slave states, but as a free state they couldn’t compete with the states with slaves and the free work. Even if your anti-slavery or an abolitionist you still had to partake in slavery, if you see a slave escape its your job to bring them back to their owner, or you could get fined.
-Ethan- Some of these debates were made by Henry Clay who was also known as The Great Compromiser, was the maker of the Compromise of 1850. The Fugitive Slave Act was also a part of the Compromise of 1850. This act ticked off many people up North because it said that if someone saw an escaped slave they had to help get it back to whatever plantation they were on, or like Skylar said they would be fined. The Whigs were basically destroyed by the compromise and before they were destroyed They nominated Lincoln for president as their last blow to slavery. - Blake - Again more repeated information. Slavery was becoming more and more a problem especially after the Fugitive Slave act that made people who were against slavery directly involved in it. The stress of all the debates of slavery eventually became too much and it all collapsed under pressure.Ben- Compromises weren’t really perfect at the time though, they still made both sides angry, but both equally angry. And with the fugitive slave act it just kept holding these people back from trying to stop slavery. (also I’ve been thinking, if you were blind and a slave ran by your house, would you be fined for not catching them since you can’t see?) Gabe - in the mid 1800s there were HUGE fights against slavery and antislaveryLiteral fights and political fights over slavery or not one time a senator in kansas
Killed because he didn't believe in slavery kansas was named bleeding kansas
Because of this and many other states fought too.
- Hunter- Like Gabe said in the mid 1800’s there were many battles fought whether it was political debates or physical fighting. And they were all based on slavery whether slavery will stay in ‘America or go and this is was sparked the Civil war but we will get to in in a minute.
ricky-Slavery was a big, big,BIG, argument in both families, and states and everything was just a big, big, BIG mess. Families were torn apart and the united states were split into two general parties, pro-slavery, and anti-slavery(abolitionists) Start of the Civil War - secession and Fort Sumter
- Skylar - The South was worried that when Lincoln takes office he would ban slavery, their whole economy was based off slavery and their free labor. If slavery was banned everyone would become poor especially in the south. This caused the south to secede from the Union, these states include South Carolina, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia, and Texas. They formed what they called the Confederate States of America. It was basically the same as the Union, nearly the same constitution, although it states that there will be slavery. I bet they felt pretty stupid when Lincoln says in his speech that he didn’t plan on outlawing slavery, just not moving it further West. Lincoln offered that they could come back and everything would go back to normal, but they decline, they want to make sure slavery will never end.
-Ethan- Lincoln was kind of the last ingredient for the Civil War in some people’s eyes. The Republican party was very anti-slavery and when Lincoln was elected, the South felt vulnerable to just about anything near slavery getting banned. Dominoes kept falling over until the Civil War was on top of us. - Blake - This was the last straw with Abraham Lincoln being elected the south couldn’t take it so they succeeded and created The Confederate States of America. They elected Jefferson Davis as their president. Fort Sumter was the key starting point of the Civil War as it was basically where the first battle happened originally it was owned by the union until the south succeeded and took it over.Ben- And the reason Lincoln hated slavery was because growing up his father was a farmer that didn’t own any slaves, so he had to compete with the slave-owning farmers. Which was almost impossible at the time.Gabe - i heard most white slave owners in the south owned one or two slaves and they secede from the north because they didn’t like the states rights and they disapproved of the tariffsHunter- The reason why the civil war started was because of the south and the north having bit of a disagreement whether or not that slavery should stay or not. The president Abraham Lincoln and the north was against slavery however the south on the other hand thought that if Abe Lincoln banned slavery it would destroy the economy and here we are many years after the war the economy is running just fine. So the south kind of were in the wrong the whole time and didn’t even know it during the war. Nowadays that would have been an empty statement. Ricky- Fort sumter is a Fort in Charleston South Carolina. The Fort is on an Island with only one bridge connected to the mainland. From the looks of it, it was fairly easy to take over. All the Confederate would need to do is to take over the bridge and then clean up whatever was left.Strategy of the Civil War
- Skylar - Each side had around 30,000 troops each. They met fairly close to Washington, D.C. to begin war, This was called the Battle of Bull Run also known as the Battle of Manassas. People brought picnic’s and wanted to watch this battle for entertainment but this was the exact opposite of entertaining around 800 people died that day and it was the most deadly battle in American history to ever happen. It was a Confederate Victory, which isn’t very surprising to me because southern people are crazy.
-Ethan- The Union was kind of like we’re going to push them down and keep them down until they can overrun the South. The Battle of Manassas/Bull Run was during the July of 1861. And Skylar, just 800 people didn’t die, each side lost 800 people. Lincoln was desperate to match the South’s leadership strategy, so he got a Democrat named George (correct me if I spell this wrong) McClellan. And he shared some differing views from Lincoln’s ideals and thought we should just let the South go. Most of the population in the South is slave and that was about 4 million people out of 9 million. But the north outnumbers them since they have close to 22 million people. The North had many railroads too which helped them move stuff. The North had more numbers than the South so they essentially tried to block them in. While the South thought that the could if their blocking them in in then they would know the battleground the best.- Ben- The south did very well in the beginning, even though the north had some advantages like railroads, and just the number of soldiers they had was greater. The south had good defense, they were prepared for the north. And the south had the great generals and leaders, people like Robert E. Lee and others.
- Blake - As the Union lost the first war which came as a surprise we have to think of the strategy and the military knowledge by the Confederacy they had general Robert E. Lee and other amazing generals and military leaders. Of course what really motivated people in the south to join the ranks was they didn’t want battles on their front lawn. Although later in the war the Union gained momentum and started to win more as they realized their strategy and the best choke points. 6.Hunter- I’m pretty sure that everyone has written down their strategy ethan’s thought on the strat is basically the beginning the strats got more and more complex like most wars. What this is is both sides trying to learn more about the enemy and their forces.
7.ricky-the goal, as ethan said, was to push them down, but the ultimate goal was to take over the southern coast cutting them off from both the world, and exports. This caused bread riots in the confederate states.
Early phases of Civil War and Antietam
- -Ethan- While elected in 1860, he didn’t get inaugurated until 1861. Now after that the Battle of Fort Sumter took place was kind of the beginning of the Civil War. I mean McClellan was worried about losing troops, so LIncoln was kind of ticked and thinking that we’re just giving the South more time to strategize. Lee thinks that he did very well in Virginia, he should take his troops up North to Maryland. This is where he meets with McClellan at Antietam. hehehehheehEHheheheheheheheheehehhehehehehehehehehhflufffy chickens
Gabe - basically at antietam they were both at a draw against each others for The whole time just back orth till lee withdrew back giving lincoln the “victory” He needed.Ben- Bull Run was a really big battle in the civil war, but it was not the most deadly battle in US history. On the topic of Antietam, the Battle of Antietam was the deadliest day of any battle on US soil. Killing over 3,000 people in a single 24 hours.(actually ben gettysburg was costliest - Blake - The battle of Antietam was gruesome it was the most deaths in one day in american history which is really saying something. But this made people realize especially after a man named Mathew Brady sent his photographer out to take pictures of the battlefield, this made people realize the what war really meant sure if either side had lost bad things would have happened but even worse would have happened the loss of innocent lives.Skylar - The South (confederates) did very good in the first year of battle, after that the North started to take over and started winning the majority of the battles, a very deadly and bloody day was the Battle of Antietam, This was the deadliest war that went on for only 24 hours and killed around 2,100 Union soldiers, wounded 9,550 and around 750 went missing. 1,550 Confederate soldiers were killed, 7,750 were wounded, and 1,020 were missing. The Emancipation Proclamation
- -Ethan- The first draft of the Emancipation Proclamation was written in 1862 by Abe, and issued on the 1st of January 1863. Before it was issued some of his advisors were just thinking it would make things weird with the slave states still in the Union. The Proclamation was basically just ending slavery in the South. The Proclamation was kind of like we’re going to give a few months to rejoin the Union. When they didn’t and they signed it, it said they couldn’t keep people from being free.
Gabe - the emancipation proclamation was basically a way for abraham lincoln stop slavery and end the slavery feud and that became the excuse as the south secede for slavery but it wasn't as i said earlier Ben- Before this, the war was just between the north and the south, the south didn’t really see it as a war to end slavery. But after the Emancipation Proclamation everyone decided. This was gonna be a war to end slavery. - Blake - Here is our podcast namesake. Basically it was an order given by president Lincoln saying that if you come back now we’ll let slavery slide for awhile. But this attempt failed and so January 1st of 1863 it was illegal to hold slaves in states outside of the Union.Skylar - The Emancipation Proclamation, said, “ I have been called to free all slaves in territories still at war with the Union.”. Although it didn’t even slavery at all. Lincoln was not anti-slavery at all. He didn’t like it but he didn’t think he had enough power to just end it once and for all. Lincoln said that the Confederate States join back before January 1st, 1863, that he wouldn’t ban slavery for the time being, but the South said no, if they would’ve said yes, the Civil War probably wouldn’t have killed as many people as it did. The Emancipation proclamation was issued five days after the battle of Antietam in September 22, 1862.Significance of the battle of Antietam
- -Ethan- The battle of Antietam took place on September 17th, 1862. It was the most violent battle in American history. A little over 4000 people died then. It was also a pretty big win for the Union and Lincoln and after this victory he had enough power to sign the Emancipation Proclamation. Now, I know normally he would be able to do that no questions asked, but with the South separating he didn’t have enough power where it mattered. This allowed slaves to separate without question.
- Gabe - Antietam was one of the bloodiest battles in the civil war because they just fought back and forth as i said earlier none stop basically just losing men till the other team lost more.
- Ben- And Europe was on the south’s side at this time, because most of their economy was based off the cotton plantations of the south, the Battle of Antietam didn’t just affect America.
- Blake - Early on in the war it had looked as though the United Kingdom would help the south in this war however this changed as the novel Uncle Tom’s Cabin had become widely popular. English merchants had also foreseen this coming so they had stocked up a pretty big supply of cotton which would prove to be a problem for the South. Hunter- This was a very violent battle a lot of people died so that the slaves could be free and live normal life instead of being enslaved. Even though some slaves were taken in and treated as family there were still thousands of deaths which I think was irrational. But back then that’s just what had to be done for the slaves to gain freedom and the same rights as the everyone else. Skylar - Lincoln really needed the North to win this battle so he could put out the Emancipation Proclamation, not because he had to win a battle to put it out, but because he needed confidence. This battle was very deadly and killed over 4,000 people both from the south and from the north. The Battle of Antietam was not just a battle in the Civil War but a battle to end slavery. It wasn’t just the confederates and the union who were involved, but as well as other countries. Ricky- to evaluate what skylar said, the Union won but it wasn’t because of that that lincoln issued the Emancipation proclamation. Lincoln issued a preliminary warning that if that if the rebellion hadn’t stopped by January 1st he would stop slavery with the Emancipation Proclamation. And then the confederate states attacked Sharpsburg, Maryland and the battle of Antietam was started.That’s all we have time for today. Thanks for joining us in this emancipation from the box, that is learning.