Empowered & Out

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  • Religious Harm, Queer Identity, and the Long Road Back to Yourself

    In this deeply important and at times heavy conversation, Coach Jon sits down with Lucas Wilson — researcher, writer, and editor of Shame, Sex, Attraction: Survivor Stories of Conversion Therapy — to talk about the lasting impact of conversion therapy, evangelicalism, white Christian nationalism, and the long road back to self-trust.

    Luke shares his lived experience growing up in a conservative religious environment, attending Liberty University, and spending four years in its conversion therapy program. Together, Jon and Luke unpack what it means to survive high-control religion, how shame gets embedded into identity, and what healing, resistance, and reclamation can actually look like on the other side.

    This episode is honest, thoughtful, and powerful. It’s a conversation about religious harm, queer identity, survival, and the courage it takes to rebuild your life when the systems that shaped you also wounded you.

    Trigger warning: This episode includes discussion of conversion therapy, religious harm, shame, identity-based trauma, and mental health. Please listen with care and pause if needed.

    Chapters
    00:00 Welcome + season theme: healing and resistance
    01:42 Meet Lucas Wilson
    04:43 Luke’s research, writing, and public-facing work
    08:59 Why these conversations matter
    11:03 Growing up in Toronto, family, and religion
    18:11 Realizing his identity didn’t fit the framework around him
    24:52 Arriving at Liberty University
    27:37 Surveillance, control, and fear on campus
    36:57 The culture of punishment and institutional pressure
    1:00:22 Shame, survivor stories, and what healing can look like
    1:05:07 Christianity, colonization, and naming harm
    1:11:32 What Luke hopes students and educators hear
    1:14:10 Rapid fire questions


    If this conversation resonated with you and you’re ready to rebuild confidence, reconnect with yourself, and make career choices that support your wellbeing, book a free discovery call with Coach Jon through the link in the show notes.

    Connect with Luke
    Instagram: @lukeslamdunkwilson

    Threads: @lukeslamdunkwilson

    Bluesky: @lukeslamdunkwilson.bsky.social

    Twitter/X: @wilson_fw

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucas-wilson-2a0753b1/ 

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/luke.wilson.96

    Connect with Coach Jon:
    https://linktr.ee/empoweredandout

    1 hr 19 min
  • The Cost of Hiding: A Black Gay Engineer’s Path Back to Himself

    In this episode of Empowered and Out, Coach Jon sits down with Phillip Hargrove, instructor of mechanical and aerospace engineering at the University of Central Florida and former NASA Kennedy Space Center engineer, for a deeply honest conversation about authenticity, identity, and what it means to return to yourself.

    Phillip shares his journey from working at NASA to making a bold career pivot into education, and how that transition helped him recognize what true alignment really feels like. Together, Jon and Phillip explore the difference between authenticity and oversharing, the cost of shape-shifting to fit into different spaces, and the ongoing practice of choosing yourself again and again.

    They also talk about coming out later, navigating visibility as a Black gay man, trusting your intuition, finding supportive people, and how coaching, therapy, and mindfulness can help you stop abandoning yourself in the name of survival.

    This episode is for anyone who has ever felt like they had to edit themselves to belong. If you’ve been shrinking at work, questioning your next step, or trying to figure out how to show up more fully in your life, this conversation will meet you with honesty, warmth, and real encouragement.

    Chapters
    00:00 Intro and welcome
    00:45 Meet Phillip Hargrove
    02:39 Energy check-in
    07:45 What authenticity means in real life
    08:43 Authenticity vs. oversharing
    12:36 The pattern of changing yourself to fit
    18:04 What shape-shifting looked like
    21:40 Coming out and feeling ready
    26:07 Fear, faith, and internalized messages
    32:15 What Phillip wishes he knew earlier
    37:01 Safety, visibility, and trusting intuition
    42:40 Leaving NASA and choosing alignment
    45:00 Engineering vs. teaching authenticity
    49:00 How coaching, mentors, and therapy helped
    53:28 What real support looks like
    56:50 Support alternatives when coaching or therapy isn’t accessible
    01:03:06 Skills to build authenticity over time
    01:07:23 Rapid fire questions
    01:14:33 Final takeaway and closing


    If this episode resonated with you, share it with someone who’s been shrinking to survive. And if you’re ready to rediscover your purpose, rebuild your confidence, and show up more fully at work and in life, book your free 30-minute discovery call through the link in the show notes.

    https://linktr.ee/empoweredandout 

    1 hr 6 min
  • Too Much, Too Femme, Too Loud? Why Authentic Leadership Still Wins with Aaron Roberts

    What happens when your style, voice, or presence gets judged before your leadership ever does?

    In this episode of Empowered and Out, Coach Jon sits down with Aaron Roberts, an operations director at a leading fertility hospital in central London, to talk about leadership, identity, performance, and what it means to succeed without shrinking yourself to fit someone else’s version of professionalism.

    Aaron shares his journey from being bullied as a young queer person, to navigating corporate healthcare without the traditional credentials people expect, to becoming a leader who believes the results speak louder than stereotypes. Together, Jon and Aaron unpack what authenticity actually looks like at work, why some people still confuse it with being unprofessional, and how leaders can better protect and promote diverse talent without making it awkward or performative.

    This conversation is for anyone who has ever been told they were too much, too visible, too different, or not the “right fit” — and needed the reminder that your identity is not the problem.

    In this episode, we talk about:
    • What being authentic really looks like in leadership
    • The pressure to tone yourself down at work
    • How Aaron built a serious career without traditional credentials
    • Why open-door leadership matters
    • What inclusion looks like when it’s done well
    • How to stop negotiating your identity just to make others comfortable
    • One actionable step to advocate for yourself while protecting your peace

    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro + season theme
    02:04 Meet Aaron Roberts
    02:28 Energy check-in
    03:50 Who Aaron was before the title
    08:21 Why reception work is never “just” reception
    12:27 What authenticity looks like as a leader
    15:24 Why authenticity gets mistaken for unprofessionalism
    20:51 “The face doesn’t fit” and workplace bias
    25:58 What it took to stop negotiating identity
    35:22 Progress and gaps in healthcare leadership
    39:41 What inclusion done well really looks like
    44:09 One norm Aaron wants to see everywhere
    51:10 What supportive leaders do differently
    54:59 What managers can do this week
    57:13 What Aaron wants people to unlearn
    01:01:14 Rapid fire questions
    01:05:03 One actionable step for self-advocacy
    01:07:08 Closing thoughts + CTA


    If this episode hit home and you’re ready to rebuild confidence, get clear on your next move, and lead without self-editing, book a free discovery call with Coach Jon through the link below.

    https://linktr.ee/empoweredandout

    And if this conversation resonated with you, share it with someone who needs the reminder that authenticity isn’t a liability — it’s leadership.

    1 hr 4 min
  • “Self-Acceptance Is My Superpower”: Coming Out Later + Creating Change

    What does it mean to come out later in life — and then learn how to live, work, and lead from that truth?

    In this powerful returning guest episode of Empowered & Out, Coach Jon welcomes back Aime Hutton for a deeper conversation about identity, self-acceptance, coming out in adulthood, and what it takes to feel safe and seen in the workplace. Aime shares her personal journey of coming out in her 40s, the fear she carried before saying it out loud, the role family played in that process, and how self-acceptance became her superpower.

    Together, Jon and Aime unpack what authenticity really looks like when you are still figuring yourself out on your own timeline. They also dig into workplace inclusion, disability advocacy, accommodations, belonging, and the difference between simply surviving at work and actually thriving there.

    Aime also shares insights from her work with Open Door Group’s Work Abilities Program, where she helps adults living with barriers find meaningful, lasting employment, along with her leadership as Chair of the Gender and Sexual Diversity Advisory Board for the Calgary Police Service.

    This conversation is honest, affirming, and deeply needed for anyone navigating identity, confidence, and career without wanting to abandon themselves in the process.

    Chapters:
    00:00 Welcome back and introducing returning guest Aime Hutton
    02:12 Aime’s new role with Open Door Group and today’s focus
    03:40 Energy check-in and grounding through work and weather
    06:14 “Self-acceptance is my superpower” — where that came from
    11:26 What was happening internally before coming out
    13:23 Fear, family, and what felt most at risk
    17:09 What surprised Aime most after coming out
    19:55 Advice for anyone in the “I think I’m ready, but I’m terrified” stage
    22:15 Coming out at work and learning what safety really looks like
    29:12 Helping adults with barriers find meaningful, lasting employment
    32:00 What workplaces need in order for people to thrive
    39:43 How employers can rethink inclusive hiring
    45:48 Leading systems change with the Calgary Police Service
    49:29 Mentoring, pronouns, and speaking to the right room
    52:04 Rapid-fire questions with a Canadian twist
    57:20 One action step toward self-acceptance without forcing danger
    58:53 Final reflections and closing message


    If this episode reminded you that you are not behind in your becoming, share it with someone who needs to hear that today. And if you’re ready for support around identity, confidence, workplace belonging, or career direction, book a discovery call through the show notes or DM me the word READY.

    https://linktr.ee/empoweredandout

    51 min
  • Breaking Stereotypes: LGBTQ+ Leadership in the Security Industry

    What does it look like to lead with integrity in an industry that still clings to outdated assumptions about masculinity and who “belongs”?

    In this episode of Empowered & Out, Coach Jon sits down with Chris Malden, owner of Prestige Security, to talk about coming out at 19, building credibility in a male-dominated field, and what real workplace inclusion actually requires.

    Chris gets honest about stereotypes gay men still face in security, why “allyship” can sometimes become too much, and the leadership lesson he’ll shout from the rooftops: know your people. We also get into authenticity versus safety at work, how to navigate conservative environments, and why being out doesn’t have to become your entire personality to be valid.

    Want support beyond the episode?

    Follow Coach Jon on social (jmbcoachingllc) and book a Discovery Call with Empowered & Out Coaching using the link below.

    Chapters:
    00:00 Welcome to Empowered & Out + season focus
    01:13 Why LGBTQ+ visibility in security matters
    02:03 Energy check-in
    03:09 Who Chris is outside of work
    05:40 “People assume I’m straight” — stereotypes and perception
    06:31 Coming out at 19 + early influences
    09:24 What he needed most back then: reassurance
    12:21 Misconceptions about LGBTQ+ people in security
    18:52 Building credibility with low representation
    20:31 Earning respect the hard way
    22:12 What “lead by example” actually means
    27:02 Leadership lesson: know your people
    29:45 Authenticity vs safety at work
    37:43 Advice for conservative workplaces
    46:03 What companies get wrong about support
    49:25 Allyship that doesn’t help (and why)
    52:06 Rapid fire time
    01:00:20 Actionable takeaways for listeners + leaders

    Follow + Book a FREE Discovery Call using this link: https://linktr.ee/empoweredandout

    54 min
  • You’re Not Late: Coming Out Later and Rebuilding Confidence at Work

    What happens when you stop living on autopilot… and finally tell yourself the truth?

    In this episode of Empowered & Out, Coach Jon sits down with Mark Dembo — business leader, executive education professional at Cornell University, coach, and co-host of Coming Inside Out — to talk about the chapter so many people live quietly: coming out later in life, and what that changes in your confidence, leadership, and day-to-day experience at work.

    Mark shares what shifted internally before anything changed externally, why “authenticity” can’t be a checkbox, and how vulnerability can make you a stronger leader without turning your workplace into therapy hour. We also get into imposter syndrome in LGBTQ+ spaces, the pressure to “prove” confidence by coming out, and why community isn’t optional — it’s foundational.

    If you’ve ever felt like you’re behind, late, or “too much” for wanting a career where you don’t have to edit yourself… this one lands in your chest.

    Ready for support? 

    Book a free call with Coach Jon https://calendly.com/jmbcoachingllc/discovery-call 

    And if you want a quick starting point, DM “ALIGN” to @jmbcoachingllc and you’ll get a simple next step for this week. 💬🏳️‍🌈

    Podcast chapters (timestamps based on transcript) ⏱️
    00:00 — Welcome + season theme: visibility, authenticity, and unmasking
    01:10 — Today’s topic: coming out later in life and what shifts at work
    02:05 — Meet Mark Dembo + his leadership/corporate lens
    03:10 — Energy check-in: “There’s a lot going on… especially in our community”
    06:10 — Decompression and joy (Olympics, rest, permission to unplug)
    08:20 — “What did coming out change internally?” (the mirror moment)
    11:25 — What got easier vs what got harder (family, guilt, people-pleasing)
    13:55 — How authenticity + vulnerability changed Mark’s leadership
    18:10 — Vulnerability without “therapy hour” at work
    20:55 — Where leaders get authenticity wrong (checkbox culture)
    23:10 — Boundaries: what to share vs what to keep private at work
    29:40 — Pressure to come out to “prove confidence” + pacing your story
    41:05 — Integrating truth into professional identity (later-in-life lens)
    42:55 — Small steps that create momentum (signals, conversations, leverage)
    46:45 — Imposter syndrome in LGBTQ+ spaces: what fuels self-doubt
    55:40 — Community as bedrock: why you can’t do this alone
    01:00:00 — Building community from zero (online groups, interest-based meetups)
    01:07:20 — Ideal workplace: psychological safety
    01:14:20 — Rapid fire (hand-holding in NYC, comfort show, theme song, podcast chaos)
    01:21:20 — One move to build confidence while coming out later
    01:22:40 — Coach Jon closing message + CTA (DM “ALIGN”, book a free call)

    1 hr 8 min
  • Queer Leadership, Inclusive AI, and Burnout Recovery with Dr. Steve Yacovelli

    In this episode of Empowered & Out, Coach Jon sits down with Dr. Steve Yacovelli (aka The Gay Leadership Dude) for a powerful conversation about what leadership looks like right now—especially for LGBTQ+ professionals navigating workplace change, performative allyship, burnout, and the rise of AI.

    Steve brings decades of experience in leadership development, organizational change, belonging, and learning strategy (including work with organizations like Disney and IBM). He breaks down what queer leaders often get wrong about authenticity, what they uniquely bring to the table, and how to lead with context without losing yourself.

    You’ll also hear an eye-opening conversation about using AI as a leadership tool (not a replacement for human judgment), where people overcomplicate it, and the biggest mistakes people make when using AI at work. Plus, Steve shares practical burnout warning signs, resilience strategies, and advice for coaches, consultants, and thought leaders sitting on ideas they haven’t launched yet.

    This episode is honest, insightful, funny, and full of real-world takeaways for anyone who wants to lead more effectively, communicate with more courage, and build a career that actually fits who they are.

    If you’ve ever felt like you had to shrink to succeed, this conversation is for you.

    If this episode sparked something in you and you’re ready to rebuild confidence, get clearer on your purpose, or make more aligned career moves, book a discovery call with Coach Jon: https://calendly.com/jmbcoachingllc/discovery-call

    Chapters:

    00:00 Intro |

    03:24 Queer leadership + authenticity |

    09:12 AI as a leadership tool |

    13:48 Biggest AI mistake (“rip and read”) |

    16:11 Inclusion vs. corporate theater |

    23:20 Gen Z + business case for inclusion |

    32:29 Burnout warning signs |

    34:45 3 resilience strategies |

    42:45 Going virtual + business pivot |

    51:02 Author/speaker/thought leader journey |

    01:10:25 Final actionable advice

    1 hr 6 min
  • Visibility Is a Strategy, Not a Personality

    In this episode of Empowered & Out, Coach Jon sits down with Ryan M. McCarthy for a sharp, honest, and surprisingly funny conversation about radical authenticity, visibility as strategy, and what it really takes to stay human inside high-pressure work cultures. 🧠✨

    Ryan shares what it means to “translate yourself” across cultures and power structures, how identity can feel like a mask we’re constantly updating, and why reading the room isn’t the same thing as shrinking. They also get real about corporate toxicity, layoffs, dignity, boundaries, and the brutal reality of today’s job market—especially in big tech and AI-adjacent work. 😮‍💨💼

    If you’ve been editing yourself to survive at work, this one lands. And Ryan leaves listeners with one simple, subtle action you can take this week to reclaim more of who you are—without putting a target on your back. 🌈✅

    Chapters
    00:00 Welcome to Empowered & Out + season theme (visibility & authenticity)
    00:31 Coach Jon’s mission + discovery call CTA
    01:10 Ryan McCarthy intro: radical authenticity + high-stakes leadership + “translation”
    02:30 Energy check-in (Ryan’s 7/10… after a rough start)
    04:23 What radical authenticity looks like on inconvenient days
    05:10 Coming out at 14 (and why it felt like compulsion + relief)
    10:08 Authenticity vs. oversharing (context + knowing your audience)
    12:06 “Read the room” without masking yourself
    14:24 France story: conservative context, gay rights convo, and visibility timing
    19:48 Translation as a life skill: identity, masks, reinvention
    24:08 Returning to U.S. corporate norms after France (culture shock + job struggle)
    28:39 The current job market: networking, silence, and corporate “ghosting”
    32:46 Toxicity at work: leadership, layoffs, and the cost of staying
    40:48 PIPs, hiring freezes, and why “dignity intact” matters
    47:07 When the pay doesn’t match the pressure (and choosing your health)
    53:18 “Too much / too weird / too queer”: why wording reveals culture
    55:22 Integrity + boundaries after disruption (and refusing “professional grief”)
    01:01:06 When you can’t afford to leave: the hard truth + compassion
    01:08:23 Resilience vs harm: the signs it’s time to cut something loose
    01:10:42 Rapid fire fun 🎬🚿🎧
    01:15:03 One small action this week to reclaim yourself (the “rainbow heart” move) 🌈
    01:17:00 Ryan’s upcoming book: The New Meta + job market help offer
    01:17:41 Coach Jon wrap + how to connect

    Reach out to Coach Jon here - https://linktr.ee/empoweredandout 

    1 hr 13 min
  • The Hidden Cost of Hiding: Burnout, Brain Health, and Being Queer at Work

    What does it really cost to keep editing yourself at work?

    In this episode of Empowered & Out, host Jonathan Barbe sits down with Dr. Ty McKinney (Calgary, Alberta) to talk about the brain-and-body toll of staying “less than fully you” on the job — especially for LGBTQ+ professionals.

    Dr. Ty lives at the intersection of neuroscience, psychology, leadership, and queer entrepreneurship, and he breaks down burnout in a way you can actually feel and understand: stress hormones, cognitive overload, emotional exhaustion, and the long-term health impacts that pile up when authenticity becomes a performance.

    00:00 Welcome + episode focus
    01:58 Energy check-in to set the tone
    04:25 The extra “burnout weight” many queer professionals carry
    07:57 Burnout broken down: the 3-part model
    12:30 Stress hormones and focus (why productivity drops)
    16:30 Burnout vs a rough week: how to tell the difference
    18:59 Expressive suppression + why masking compounds stress
    22:38 Gen Z at work: vulnerability, voice, and burnout trends
    27:59 What companies lose: retention, presenteeism, performance
    31:56 Authenticity without the “free-for-all” (healthy boundaries)
    44:38 What the smartest leaders do differently
    01:10:17 One doable change this week + your powerful close

    If you’ve ever felt exhausted from code-switching, masking, or shrinking at work — this one is for you.

    Connect with Dr. Ty + learn about his upcoming expressive suppression workshop (ahead of Pride Month): https://www.linkedin.com/in/tytheneuroguy/
    Work with Coach Jon/Jonathan / coaching: https://linktr.ee/empoweredandout

    Reminder: You deserve a career that doesn’t require you to disappear to succeed.


    #EmpoweredAndOut #BurnoutRecovery #AuthenticLeadership #Neuroscience #MentalHealthAtWork

    1 hr 4 min
  • Queer Time, Becoming, and the Courage to Stay Visible

    Queer Time, Becoming, and the Courage to Stay Visible — with Colin Belcourt

    What does it mean to live in the in-between?

    In this expansive and deeply honest episode of Empowered & Out, Jonathan sits down with writer and former HR/DEI leader Colin Belcourt, author of the forthcoming memoir The Blue Hour Gospel—a lyrical, fragmented exploration of queer time, self-erasure, survival, and the slow work of becoming whole.

    Together, they unpack what it means to move through careers and communities while constantly editing yourself, how queer lives resist neat timelines, and why authenticity is less about perfect endings and more about learning how to stay.

    Colin shares how therapy helped him recognize patterns of self-erasure, why he rejected traditional memoir structure in favor of fragments, and how chosen family, queer spirituality, and music playlists became acts of resistance and repair.

    The conversation weaves through generational divides, visibility politics, body image, belonging, faith, and the quiet courage it takes to stop shrinking—at work and in life.

    If you’ve ever wondered:
    ✨ Why your career path doesn’t look linear
    ✨ How to stop performing safety
    ✨ What “home” really means
    ✨ Or how to honor who you’re still becoming

    This episode is for you.

    1 hr 14 min

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Empowered & Out is the podcast for anyone who wants a career that feels aligned, meaningful, and authentic.