'Anau came to New Zealand from Tonga as a child - her full story will follow but this has 4 short excerpts from our conversation telling a few stories about her life. I love the podcast for the different perspectives it can offer us on life, other journeys and what we might otherwise take for granted.

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This is episode 190 of seeds - check out more at www.theseeds.nz

Thank you Mele Wendt and Saia Mataele for your respective roles in helping this episode happen.