EMS One-Stop

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  • Online EMS education: More than just recorded lectures

    This week on the Inside EMS podcast, host Kelly Grayson tags in Texas educator John Puryear for a deep dive into the ever-evolving world of EMS education. What starts with a little sweet tea and Southern storytelling quickly turns into a masterclass on how to actually make distance learning work.

    Puryear breaks down the difference between synchronous and asynchronous learning, and why simply dumping recorded lectures on students isn’t enough. The real magic? Engagement. Whether it’s live interaction, strategic questioning or just being a “bit of an entertainer,” effective online education demands more than a webcam and a PowerPoint.

    Bottom line: online education isn’t going anywhere. But if you’re going to do it, you better do it right. The future isn’t just virtual — it’s hybrid, interactive and built by educators who actually care.

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    40 min
  • CAAS accreditation – More than a badge, a blueprint for excellence

    This week on EMS One-Stop, Rob Lawrence sits down with Sarah McEntee, executive director of the Commission on Accreditation of Ambulance Services (CAAS), to unpack what accreditation really means for modern EMS systems.

    Moving beyond the “sticker on the truck,” Sarah reframes CAAS as a living, breathing process — one that drives internal improvement, organizational alignment and long-term sustainability. From its origins within the American Ambulance Association in the 1990s, to the latest Version 4.0 standards, the conversation highlights how CAAS provides a unified, industry-driven framework that elevates agencies from compliant to high-performing.

    Rob brings a practitioner’s perspective, reflecting on his own experience navigating multiple accreditation cycles, emphasizing how CAAS becomes a “guiding light” for governance, clinical care and operational excellence.

    Together, they explore the structure of the standards, the application journey, and the cultural readiness required to succeed.

    The key takeaway is clear: accreditation is not a project with an endpoint — it’s a continuous process that strengthens organizations from the inside out, identifying risks, improving systems, and ultimately delivering better care to patients and communities.

    Episode timeline

    01:30 – Origins of CAAS and need for unified standards

    03:30 – Breakdown of CAAS standards (admin, clinical, operations)

    06:30 – Deep dive into operational standards and structure

    10:30 – Rob’s real-world experience with accreditation

    12:30 – Accreditation as a process vs. project

    16:00 – Value proposition: internal vs. external benefits

    18:30 – Cost vs. value — and the risk of not being accredited

    22:00 – Step-by-step accreditation journey (readiness → submission → review)

    28:30 – Site visits and peer collaboration

    31:30 – Resources, support and how to get started

    34:30 – Final reflections and leadership call to action

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    38 min
  • Live from NEMSMA: From battlefield to boardroom

    This edition of EMS One-Stop, recorded at the inaugural National EMS Management Association conference in Arlington, Virginia, pairs two complementary conversations about leadership and the future of EMS.

     

    In the first half, General Robert Neller brings a military leader’s lens to universal leadership truths: lead yourself first, remember that everyone is watching, stay humble, listen better and understand that decisiveness matters. His message is simple and sharp. People want leaders who will set the example, make the call when it matters, and balance standards with empathy.

     

    | MORE: EMS Leadership Institute — AI and the future of EMS

     

    In the second half, NEMSMA President Dr. Hezedean Smith reflects on a successful launch for the conference and looks ahead to where EMS leadership must go next. He frames this association as a growing home for mentorship, shared learning and strategic thinking, while also pointing to the disruptive forces already reshaping the profession:

    • Artificial intelligence

    • Redesigned systems

    • Recruitment and retention pressures

    • The possibility of autonomous ambulance operations

      Taken together, the episode is both a leadership masterclass and a forward look at an EMS profession that cannot afford to stand still.

      Episode timeline

      00:39 – Rob sets the scene from the inaugural NEMSMA conference in Northern Virginia.

      00:51 – Rob introduces General Neller as the opening keynote speaker.

      01:38 – General Neller explains his leadership “roadmap,” beginning with leading yourself first.

      03:38 – Rob and General Neller discuss how leaders are always being watched.

      06:04 – Advice for the newly promoted EMS lieutenant: growth takes time, ask for advice, study and learn.

      08:11 – General Neller reflects on what he wishes he had known earlier in his career: be a better listener.

      09:41 – The “don’t eat the cake” story becomes a lesson in humility and example-setting.

      11:42 – General Neller discusses when leaders must consult and when they must simply decide.

      13:22 – Final leadership theme from General Neller: empathy strengthens standards rather than weakening them.

      17:04 – Rob returns with Dr. Hezedean Smith, President of NEMSMA.

      17:18 – Dr. Smith describes the early success of the inaugural conference and strong turnout.

      18:12 – Dr. Smith confirms planning is already underway for next year because the event has outgrown the venue.

      19:25 – Discussion shifts to the future direction of EMS leadership and system design.

      19:49 – Dr. Smith highlights AI, system redesign, and recruitment and retention as major themes.

      20:47 – Dr. Smith talks about self-driving ambulances, solar-powered systems and rapid technological change.

      21:38 – Dr. Smith emphasizes that technology must make providers’ work easier, not harder.

      22:22 – Rob asks why people should join NEMSMA.

      22:28 – Dr. Smith outlines mentorship, information sharing and rapid organizational growth.

      23:13 – Dr. Smith closes by reaffirming NEMSMA’s role in the EMS leadership space.

      23:46 – Rob signs off from what he calls an “amazing time” at the conference.

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      25 min
    • Inside EMS co-host debate: Street time or straight to medic?

      Things get intense on this episode of Inside EMS as hosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson tackle an age-old industry debate: should EMTs spend time on a truck before going to paramedic school or is that “experience” overrated?

      Kelly kicks things off with a spicy take, arguing that poor field training and inconsistent preceptorship often do more harm than good. From his perspective, bad habits, weak mentorship and burnout culture are the norm, not the exception.

      But Chris isn’t buying it. He counters that experience builds what classrooms can’t: clinical judgment, scene management and the ability to function in chaos. For him, skipping that step means stacking advanced skills on a shaky foundation.

      What follows is a back-and-forth that hits on everything from “microwave medics” and outdated curricula to high-fidelity simulation and whether modern education can truly replicate the street.

      Both sides agree the system is flawed — but disagree on where to fix it.

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      28 min
    • Stop guessing your blood gases

      In this episode of Inside EMS, cohosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson are once again joined by paramedic student April McKenzie, a.k.a., “April Anonymous,” for a deep dive on measuring arterial blood gas.

      Chris and Kelly walk April (and anyone else grinding through class) through the core idea that everything hinges on knowing “normal.” Once you lock in pH, CO₂ and bicarb ranges, the rest becomes pattern recognition, not panic.

      The big takeaway? Master normal, stay curious and treat every patient like a learning opportunity. Because the more normals you encounter, the faster you’ll catch what’s not.

      Quotable takeaways
      • “Our whole job in a nutshell is maintaining homeostasis and knowing when the body is going to restore homeostasis.”
      • “Voltaire said that the art of medicine is entertaining the patient until nature cures the disease. But, we know that nature doesn't always cure the disease. We have to know when to step in, when nature's not gonna do it.”
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        31 min
      • How everyday actions shape EMS culture

        This week on Inside EMS, hosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson take a practical look at how leadership — both formal and informal — shapes the culture of an EMS organization.

        The hosts break down three things crews notice immediately: consistency, presence and composure. They emphasize that good leadership isn’t about controlling people or enforcing policies — it’s about developing crews, communicating clearly and earning trust over time.

        This episode breaks down how leadership credibility is built slowly through consistent behavior — and it only takes one misstep to damage it.

        Quotable takeaways
        • “The culture of an EMS organization is shaped far more by leadership behavior than by policy manuals.”

        • “You don't build strong organizations by controlling people. You build them by developing people.”

        • “Leadership starts the moment people are watching.”

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          29 min
        • Six minutes to live: Inside the push to save cardiac arrest victims

          In this edition of EMS One-Stop, Rob Lawrence is joined by Bob Davies and Hilary Gates to explore the mission behind Six Minutes to Live, a growing movement focused on improving survival from sudden cardiac arrest.

          | MORE: ‘Six Minutes to Live': Mini-documentary spotlights cardiac arrest care crisis

          The conversation begins with the stark reality that every minute without CPR and defibrillation reduces survival by 10%, and then widens into a larger discussion about injustice, geography and system performance.

          Bob reflects on his landmark USA Today investigation into EMS disparities across the country, while Hilary explains why this issue remains deeply personal and why communities, not just medical systems, must be part of the solution.

          The episode then turns from problem to action. Hilary and Bob describe how Six Minutes to Live is using storytelling, advocacy, community partnerships and public training to drive change, especially through bystander CPR education, school-based training and public access defibrillation.

          From Santa Cruz to the Resuscitation Academy in Seattle, the emphasis is on making the simple feel possible: hands-only CPR, early defibrillation and empowering ordinary people to act. The result is more than a nonprofit or a campaign. As Rob notes, this is a movement.

          Memorable quotes

          • “For every minute that a person's heart has stopped, their chance of survival decreases by 10%.” — Hilary Gates
          • “Life and death is defined by geography.” — Bob Davies
          • “There are vulnerable, voiceless people living on the margins who need a voice.” — Hilary Gates
          • “The main way that people save more lives is they care.” — Bob Davies
          • “Every podcast that Hillary and I are involved with is actually sponsored by R&D. Rip off and duplicate, show up, take our stuff, go and save lives with it.” — Rob Lawrence
          • Additional resources

            • Six Minutes to Live
            • Six Minutes to Live mini documentary
            • Episode timeline

              • 01:34-02:14 – Rob Lawrence introduces the episode and welcomes Hilary Gates and Bob Davies.
              • 02:21-03:21 – Hilary Gates shares her background as an educator turned paramedic and cofounder of Six Minutes to Live.
              • 03:48-08:14 – Bob Davies recounts his experience as a paramedic and journalist, including his USA Today investigation into EMS performance disparities.
              • 08:24-10:50 – Rob asks what has changed in 20 years; Bob discusses the enduring formula, new technology and the energy of younger clinicians.
              • 11:08-13:02 – Hilary explains why Six Minutes to Live was founded and frames cardiac arrest survival as an issue of injustice and community responsibility.
              • 13:13-17:08 – Rob asks what Six Minutes to Live is and how it fits among other advocacy organizations; Bob and Hilary describe its role as a connector and storyteller.
              • 18:04-18:39 – Rob resets the conversation and asks what the organization is doing now.
              • 18:50-20:47 – Hilary describes the Santa Cruz partnership, community CPR training and support from donors and local agencies.
              • 21:12-23:47 – Bob highlights their upcoming workshop at the Resuscitation Academy in Seattle and the power of systems that care enough to measure and improve.
              • 24:00-25:20 – Rob offers a transatlantic explainer connecting Eisenberg, Utstein and UK ambulance response standards.
              • 25:24-28:41 – Hilary discusses community myths about CPR and AEDs, and the need to simplify action for laypeople.
              • 28:48-31:02 – Bob outlines what is next: documentaries, deep listening, connecting voices and helping movements grow organically.
              • 31:17-33:01 – Rob and Hilary talk about creating local champions, liability concerns and getting communities to act.
              • 33:13-34:47 – Rob asks the closing question; Hilary urges EMS clinicians to become local champions for simple lifesaving actions.
              • 35:22-37:20 – Bob closes with a call for EMS professionals to confront the “little secrets” they know and act on them.
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                39 min
              • Stop leading EMS like it’s a bar fight

                “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.”

                ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

                This week on Inside EMS, host Chris Cebollero brings a fresh interpretation to Sun Tzu’s ancient text with his latest book, “The Art of War for Business Leaders: Winning Without Fighting in Leadership, Strategy, and Life.” Chris makes the case that EMS leadership is more about clarity and discipline than chest-thumping command presence, tying Tzu’s principles back to everyday EMS realities.

                The discussion digs into why leaders so often fight the wrong battles, from staffing drama and culture clashes, to policy headaches and ego wars, and how better planning can keep those problems from blowing up in the first place

                The conversation dissects what accountability without chaos means in practice: building culture, reducing friction and leading in a way that gives crews the tools, support and ownership they need to succeed.

                Quotable takeaways
                • “Most leaders don't fail because they're bad people. They fail because they fight battles that they never really need to fight.”
                • “Never allow your emotions to dictate your actions. I was a powder keg that would explode when things didn't go right. [“The Art of War”] taught me to be less reactive.”
                • “Discipline creates freedom.”
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                  31 min
                • EMS leaders head to Capitol Hill with one message: It’s time to fund the future

                  EMS on the Hill isn’t just a date on the calendar — it’s the profession’s annual moment to stand in front of Congress and tell the EMS story with clarity, confidence and unity.

                  In this edition of EMS One-Stop, Rob Lawrence is joined by NAEMT President, Chris Way, to preview EMS on the Hill (March 25–26, 2026) and explain why this event matters now more than ever: EMS is where most Americans first enter the healthcare system, and the care delivered in the field is no longer “drive-you-to-the-hospital medicine.”

                  Chris and Rob also unpack what’s changed — the scale of collaboration across national organizations and the discipline of going to Capitol Hill with aligned priorities and a shared message. They walk listeners through the event flow (Education Day, briefings, Hill visits, awards and reception), the importance of working relationships with staffers, and the advocacy “ask” that could reshape the future: reimbursement for treatment in place, mobile integrated healthcare/community paramedicine, and sustainable support for initiatives like prehospital blood. The throughline is simple: show up, speak with one voice, and translate momentum into legislative wins.

                  Additional resources:

                  • EMS on the Hill Day

                  • One voice, one profession — EMS leaders open summit with call for unity and coordinated action

                    Episode timeline
                    • 00:00 – Chris Way frames the goal: becoming a trusted, go-to EMS resource for lawmakers

                    • 00:52 – Why EMS on the Hill matters; EMS as the front door of healthcare; call to action

                    • 02:16 – Advocacy theme and EMS on the Hill as the seminal D.C. event

                    • 03:27 – Kansas City summit recap; commitment to making it annual; “stronger together”

                    • 05:39 – Evolution of EMS on the Hill into a multi-organization partnership; one message

                    • 08:24 – Logistics overview begins: dates, hotel, education day, briefings, awards

                    • 10:16 – How to succeed in legislative meetings: reading the room, time limits, staffer relationships

                    • 17:14 – Priority bills: treatment in place, MIH/CP, whole blood, NAMSP priorities

                    • 21:02 – “This is ongoing” collaboration: monthly cross-organization calls, broader coordination

                    • 24:05 – Chris shares his recommended approach: prep, priorities, cards/coins, questions, follow-up

                    • 27:34 – Rob’s add-ons: photos after meetings, tagging lawmakers, comms/PR value

                    • 28:59 – Final logistics recap; what to expect as a first-timer at state tables

                    • 30:37 – Chris closes: unprecedented partnership, focus to “get this done”

                    • 31:14 – Rob plugs state-level advocacy (CAA Stars/Capitol Day)

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                      32 min
                    • Beyond check-the-box: Making National Registry prep actually stick

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                      This week on the Inside EMS podcast, Jon Puryear, NREMT-P, is back and if you’ve ever sweated a National Registry deadline, this one hits home. Amid the ever-looming March 31 cutoff, Puryear breaks down what’s changed in continuing education — and what hasn’t.

                      Known for his ability to simplify complex topics, Puryear has built National Registry refresher courses, explainers and CE programs designed not just to check a box, but to truly reinforce clinical understanding. His teaching style leans heavily on storytelling and practical analogies — think pulmonary edema explained through a waterlogged sponge — so providers walk away actually understanding the information, not just memorizing it.

                      If you need hours, motivation — or just someone to explain it like a human — this episode is your reset.

                      Top quotes

                      • “I don’t believe that we chose this profession. I believe that the profession chose us. We have a special calling inside of us to be able to take care of our fellow mankind.”
                      • “We don’t get rich. We don’t make a lot of money doing this. We’re truly public servants.”
                      • “Continuing education is still important to be able to keep our mind, our clinical care, our judgment, everything on top.”
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                        34 min

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