Need To Know

Encounters - (Project Book Club)


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In this episode of Project Book Club, Bryce Zabel and Chrissy Newton explore Encounters, the follow-up to Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka’s American Cosmic. The conversation centers on the evolving relationship between technology, belief, and non-human intelligence, with Bryce and Chrissy examining the book’s central thesis: that the phenomenon is not just material, but deeply metaphysical—and that contact may already be happening, just not in ways we fully understand.

They discuss the unique cast of characters Pasulka highlights, including scientists, technologists, and experiencers who remain anonymous yet share stunning claims. From mysterious artifacts to altered states of consciousness, the episode dives into how Encounters blends religious studies, high strangeness, and modern science in a way that challenges traditional disclosure narratives. Bryce and Chrissy weigh in on Pasulka’s writing style, noting the poetic, sometimes abstract tone that leaves room for interpretation and wonder.

They also share their personal takeaways—what resonated, what raised eyebrows, and how this book fits into the larger puzzle of UAP research. Along the way, they reflect on themes of secrecy, belief, and the possibility that humanity is already in dialogue with something beyond itself. As always, the conversation is rich with insight, curiosity, and just the right amount of caffeine. This episode invites listeners not only to read the book but to question how we define evidence, contact, and reality itself.

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