Engaging Gray

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  • Finding Hope in the Web - Hanna Schulze

    It can be daunting to try and make a difference, especially when you are fatigued and overwhelmed. In this episode, we talk with Hanna Schulze, who has worked in business and on behalf of businesses that demonstrate responsible practices for years. Her connection to the community both locally and in business gives her a unique perspective on the challenges faced by our communities. We talk about how often the things facing businesses are often connected to the issues facing families and communities at large. And while this interconnected web of issues can be overwhelming it is precisely because they are connected that gives us hope. We find hope in each other, in the small acts we do each day, and in our collective humanity. 

    Resources mentioned in this episode: 

    • Local first 
    • People First Economy
    • Good For Michigan 
    • Michigan New Economy
    • 38 min
    • Mary DeYoung - appreciating mystery and accepting failure

      This is the final episode of Engaging Gray Podcast Season 2. I recap some of the key themes from this season as well as share two things I have learned are important for my own cultivation of perseverance: mystery and failure. I talk about how simple ideas such as, know yourself, are perhaps not as easy as they seem and how shifting our language and perspective can help us. Finally, I share how decentering ourselves (even while prioritizing knowing ourselves) can help us live into the ideas of this season and how it has helped me cultivate a pace of perseverance. 

      Resources named in this episode:

      • Older episodes
      • Brené Brown
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      • 26 min
      • Cole Arthur Riley - A Pace of Protection

        In this week's episode, we have the honor of hearing from Cole Arthur Rile, a gifted writer and liturgist, on how cultivating a pace of perseverance is more than about continuing to "do" but how it helps us BE fully. Cole shares with us how boundaries, silence, and reflection have been integral parts of cultivating her own pace, which enables her to write in a way that breathes connection into existence and continues to engage the complex and ever-changing world we find ourselves in. Take a listen for inspiration and tangible advice on cultivating a pace of perseverance. 

        Resources mentioned in the podcast:

        Cole Arthur Riley: 

        • IG-@blackliturgies
          • FB-@blackliturgist
          • Twitter-@blackliturgist
          • Cole's book: This Here Flesh: Spirituality, Liberation, and the Stories that Make Us (pre-order here)



            39 min
          • Chelsea Garter - To persevere we have to trust and practice

            Today's guest inspires us to trust ourselves and how we were made to be free, creative, and thankful. Chelsea's way of seeing the world inspires us to see through a lens of gratitude and awe! This lens is captured in her art, but it's not always easy. Just like all of us, creatives have hard and uninspired seasons, there are times when it's hard to create and produce. Chelsea talks about how learning to trust herself, and show up to keep practicing has helped her to persevere through these seasons. 

            Resources mentioned in the podcast:

            • Chelsea Instagram - @@Chelseamichalgarter and @chelseamichalart
            • Chelsea's website 
            • Chelsea is hosting a class at Glass House community in July - so stay tuned!

            • 39 min
            • Dr. Michelle R. Loyd-Paige - Sustainability in DEI

              Talk to anyone who had been involved in integrating Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion into a system and you'll hear someone who has hit roadblocks and fought burnout. In this week's episode, we talk with Dr. Loyd-Paige who has been working in this arena for multiple decades on how she has cultivated a pace of perseverance and sustainability. We discuss how important it is to know and trust yourself, not only in your work but in your rest. Pull up a chair and join our conversation! 

              Resources named in the episode:

              • Ruth Haley Barton - Sacred Rhythms 
              • Death of the Strong Black Woman - Poem
              • Resources to stay in touch with Dr. Loyd-Paige

                • The Antioch Podcast  
                • Loyd Paige & Associates  
                • My upcoming book - Diversity Playbook
                • 40 min
                • Janay Brower - Keeping the Triple Bottom Line

                  Cultivating and keeping a pace of perseverance and sustainability is hard enough as an entrepreneur, but add on top of that trying to be a triple bottom line business from the beginning?! Well, that's hard. Join me this week for an authentic conversation with Public Thread Founder, Janay Brower as we discuss how she has and continues to cultivate a pace of perseverance that works for her and for her business. 

                  Resources mentioned in the episode:

                  • Public Thread website 
                  • Public Thread Instagram: @publicthread
                  • Emergent Strategy book 
                  • Local First 
                  • 36 min
                  • Elizabeth Maring - Living out of your Values

                    Many people look forward to when they can "retire", mainly because they are exhausted. But not everyone is exhausted, some people have found a way to live a life that is sustainable and paced. Elizabeth Maring shares with us how she found and lived a life marked by a pace of perseverance and deeply rooted values. In this conversation, we discuss how values shape career decisions, impacts how we lead, and ultimately can be the foundation for a life marked by a pace of perseverance. 

                    Resources mentioned in the episode: 

                    • Elizabeth Maring's website (where you can get a free workbook to accompany her book, "The Nonprofit Playbook")
                    • Nonprofit Playbook (purchase)
                    • 40 min
                    • Ellie Roscher - Being rooted for forward movement

                      In this week's episode, we talk with Ellie Roscher, author of the recently released book "12 Tiny Things" about how being rooted in ourselves, our beliefs, and priorities can give us the perseverance to show up in a busy and complex life. It's not always about making big shifts, sometimes they can be the small but important things that help us the most. 

                      Resources: 

                      Ellie Roscher:

                      • website: https://ellieroscher.com
                      • Twitter: @ellieroscher
                      • Instagram: @ellieroscher
                      • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ellieroscher
                      • Podcast: Unlikely Conversations: https://collegevilleinstitute.org/podcasts/

                        Most Recent Book: 12 Tiny Things

                        • Website: https://12tinythings.com/
                        • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/12tinythings/
                        • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/12TinyThings
                        • 38 min
                        • Hailey Mitsui - A Contemplative Relay

                          On this week's episode, we have Hailey Mitsui! Hailey talks about how living a contemplative life is antithetical to performance, and performance is antithetical to perseverance. So how do we cultivate a contemplative life? How do we integrate this into our day to day, leading to a life marked by engaged perseverance? Find out on this week's episode!

                          Resources identified: 

                          Barbara Holmes 

                          Insight Timer App

                          Hailey Mitsui - @mitsmitsmits

                          Orienting practice 


                          Recorded on March 1st

                          40 min
                        • Mary Hulst - How play helps you persevere.

                          In this week's episode of Engaging Gray, we talk with Rev. Dr. Mary Hulst. Mary reminds us about the power of play, joy, and gratitude in cultivating perseverance when living a life fully engaged in messy spaces. Mary talks with us really practically about how we ground ourselves in the hard times by taking one step at a time, and how this can sometimes lead us to find out that 30 years later we're still doing the small thing that makes all the differences. Join us!

                          Resources: 

                          • Find Mary on Instagram: @PastorMary2U
                          • Reach out for coaching from Mary: www.preachertopreacher.net
                          • Get her book: A Little Handbook for Preachers
                          • Books she recommended: The Water Dancer, All the Light you Cannot See, Where the Craw Dad Sings
                          • This episode was recorded on February 26th. 

                            44 min

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                          Listen to stories from practitioners and find encouragement and tips for engaging in the gray and unclear spaces of everyday life.