You know that moment when you're up at midnight building web pages, running project ideas through Claude and feeling incredibly productive... and meanwhile there are two real humans waiting for you to send a simple follow-up email that would actually make you money?
Yeah. That's where this episode went. I sat down with Laura Schoenfeld and expected a conversation about how she uses AI in her business. What I got was a full mirror held up to every expert-based entrepreneur (myself included) who's gotten so swept up in what AI can do that they've completely lost track of what their business actually needs them to do.
Laura's a business coach who works with established experts already at six figures and beyond, and she's watching smart, talented people outsource the one thing that makes them money (their voice, their thought leadership, their sales conversations) to AI while spending hours building systems nobody asked for. The examples she shared will make you cringe. And the litmus test she uses to decide what AI should and shouldn't touch in your business is something I'm stealing immediately.
What you'll learn:
- Laura's test for deciding what belongs with AI and what doesn't
- Why competing on content volume is dead and what you're actually competing on now
- The real reason AI-generated sales copy falls flat
- How to identify the four core money-making activities in your business and protect them from over-automation
- Why AI might actually be making you less productive, not more, and how to set boundaries around it
00:19 – Welcome and Guest Intro
02:10 – AI Hype and Shiny Objects
06:43 – AI FOMO and Business Fit
07:02 – When AI Outsourcing Backfires
10:56 – The Outsource Litmus Test
14:19 – Quality Over Volume Content
17:58 – Podcast Workflow Automation
28:00 – Priorities and Guardrails
32:15 – Money Making Activities First
35:45 – AI as Admin Assistant
41:55 – Boundaries and Final Takeaways
45:22 – Where to Find Laura
>MEET LAURA<<
Laura Schoenfeld is a business coach and the founder of The Nourished CEO, where she helps coaches, consultants and service-based experts build authority-driven businesses that generate serious revenue without sacrificing themselves to get there. A registered dietitian with a master's in public health, she spent years in clinical nutrition building a multiple-six-figure health consulting company before transitioning to business coaching in 2020, going on to generate over $3.5 million across her offers. She operates her business using an anti-hustle model that runs on roughly 20 hours a week, built around her life as a wife and mom of two rather than giving up her life for maximum output. These days she's especially focused on helping experts turn what they know into scalable tools and systems to help them earn more doing the work they love.
>CONNECT WITH LAURA<<
Website: https://lauraschoenfeldrd.com
Instagram & Threads: @laura.schoenfeld
Grab Laura's resource
Take the CEO Type Quiz to discover which of the four CEO Types you lead from (Decisive, Relational, Consistent or Strategic) and what that means for how you make decisions, sell and build your business. It's built on DISC principles but applied specifically to how service-based experts run their companies.
https://www.lauraschoenfeld.com/quiz
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