In this episode we zoom out to examine the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA), the denomination of Covenant Theological Seminary. What does the reaction to Elizabeth's murder tell us about how Christian institutions handle tragedy? And how should they talk about Elizabeth going forward?

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More info from this episode...

• Read the Domestic Abuse and Sexual Assault (DASA) Report here.

• Luke Davis: Check out his Cameron Ballack detective series, one of which is loosely based on the murder of Elizabeth Mackintosh.

• Julie Roys: The Roys Report does reporting on the American Evangelical church

• Liam Adams: Religion reporter for the The Tennessean

• Katherine Spearing: founder of Tears of Eden, a nonprofit supporting survivors of spiritual abuse. She also hosts the Uncertain Podcast, which did an episode in July of 2023 about Elizabeth.