The one and only Dave Icenogle returns yet again for another multi-hour conversation. He and Breht start off talking about their recent adventures together, then move into a conversation about death and how we deal with it, they then discuss the tragedies and suffering of life and how to come out of them a deeper, more kind hearted, and better human being. After all of that, they discuss the importance of the religious impulse, make fun of Jordan Peterson, Abolish Hell, and then speculate recklessly about aliens, different dimensions, and the fabric of space-time.