The Boys are Back - together they catch listeners up on David's recovery journey and the lessons he's learned during the last 100 days of sobriety, Breht's writers block and new job, and a wide ranging, multi-dimensional conversation on the horrendous state of American society in 2025. Finally, they wrap up with a conversation on history and where our godforsaken civilization is headed in the coming years... also David fixates on that one time McDonalds sold Salad Shakers.

outro music: 'Plantain Char' by Spinitch

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This is a small snippet from a full episode currently up on patreon in which Breht discusses a crucial dimension of a well-lived, meaningful existence, and explicates the transformative power of meditation practice,when done sincerley and consistently over time within an established philosophical and religious framework (as opposed to the stripped down, commodified, bastardized version of it often offered in western capitalist societies). 

David talks about the issues atheists and agnostics face in recovery, particularly 12-step programs. If you like this segment, check out all the episodes on my YouTube channel. You can find it by searching "David Icenogle No Chaser" or by following this link: https://youtube.com/@davidnochaser?si=BaQZNtUTrZOPKbv9

David talks about the very important but not well-known cause of relapse known as PAWS. If you like these segments, check out my YouTube channel by searching "David Icenogle No Chaser" or following this link: https://youtube.com/@davidnochaser?si=brlPb70M1ECvuYq0

David talks about what scares him the most about addiction.

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https://youtube.com/@davidnochaser?si=MCCxFz8T0wQEwmHy

David talks about the dreadful thought "what if all this pain and suffering was for nothing?"

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David discusses dealing with shameful memories that still sting.

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The boys try and fail to do a police interogation bit, and get meta wit it. Then Dave asks Breht what the shape of the universe is, leading to an extended conversation about cosmology, including whether the universe is infinite or finite, what leading scientists deduce from the curvature of space time, the size of the observable universe, the speed of light, and whether or not our entire universe is actually inside a black hole... Then they explore the psychology of crowds - at sports games, protests, concerts, etc. - before finally launching into a discussion on the philosophy of Existentialism and the question of Free Will.

David asks the grim but very real question about what to do with the alcoholic or addict in your life that is helpless.

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The boys have a letter-writing campaign during the American Revolutionary War against the British... Then they talk about their dreams, their superpowers, and the NBA finals, before launching into an analysis of what is and isnt considered "The Midwest". Then Breht explains cosmology to Dave, and together they wrestle with the Fermi Paradox and a number of possible solutions to it.  

outro music provided by Spinitch.

Song: Hevea Sap 

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