Synopsis: Owen, Laine and a 200 year-old gay tortoise explore the history of scientific research into gay animals. From gay swans to self-pleasuring elephants and amorous giraffes, they learn how scientists have been understanding and misunderstanding queerness in nature for centuries. And they introduce us to a bold researcher in the 1990’s who helped us see nature for what it is – queer as fuck.

Guest: Joe Hollins - author of Vet at the End of the Earth

Joe Hollins - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joehollins_vet/

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