Magical Overthinkers

Magical Overthinkers

By Amanda Montell & Studio71Society & CultureScienceEducation
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  • Overthinking About Trauma

    If your trauma helped shape who you are, what happens to you when you start healing it? This week, Amanda is joined by complex trauma expert, therapist, and NYU adjunct professor Dr. Gillian O’Shea Brown, LCSW (@dr.gillianosheabrown), author of Psyche’s Awakening, to untangle some of the questions that tend to get flattened into therapy-speak online. They overthink the difference between acute and complex trauma, why certain songs can send us straight back into an old emotional reality, whether being cheated on can be traumatic, and how to know if you’re actually processing your pain or just overwhelming yourself all over again. They also get into closure fantasies, talking to the parent who hurt you, the strange ways old wounds can become ambition or perfectionism, and the fear that healing might erase the person you fought so hard to become. An eye opening spiral about triggers, coping mechanisms, closure, and becoming more yourself instead of less.

    Further Reading: Psyche’s Awakening by Dr. Gillian O’Shea Brown, LCSW

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    Pick up Amanda's book The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality, or listen to the audiobook.
    See Amanda, in person! Sounds Like A Cult is coming to you LIVE from The Elysian in LA on October 15th! Get tickets at soundslikeacult.com!


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      54 min
    • Overthinking About AI Boyfriends

      Would you ever date an AI boyfriend? Before you say absolutely fucking not, consider this: plenty of people who swear they’d never have an “AI relationship” are already turning to chatbots for reassurance, emotional processing, difficult conversations, or the occasional late-night spiral. This week, Amanda is joined by Bridget Todd (@bridgetmarieindc), host of There Are No Girls on the Internet and author of Love at First Prompt: AI and the Future of Intimacy, to overthink what happens when technology starts creeping into our most private emotional spaces. They talk about women using AI for romance because dating men feels increasingly hostile, neurodivergent people using chatbots to rehearse human connection, the appeal of a boyfriend who literally never gets tired of talking about books, and the very real misogyny baked into “girlfriends who never say no.” But in the world of large language models, who gets to own, shape, and profit from the parts of us that feel most intimate. An inquisitive spiral about loneliness, desire, digital intimacy, and who gets access to our inner worlds.
      Further Listening: Love at First Prompt by Bridget Todd

      Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers.

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      Pick up Amanda's book The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality, or listen to the audiobook.

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      41 min
    • Overthinking About Dream Jobs

      What if you actually get your dream job... and then realize you're not living the dream you thought you would? This week, Amanda is joined by Cherie Brooke (@cherie.brooke) and Jean (@_jeanluo), hosts of the Tiger Sisters podcast (@tigersisterspodcast), who both left impressive corporate careers after discovering that the jobs their younger selves would have killed for no longer fit the lives they wanted. Together, they overthink golden handcuffs, the privilege built into pursuing passion, and why a job doesn’t have to provide purpose, identity, money, joy, and self-actualization all at once. They talk about taking sabbaticals, experimenting before making a giant career leap, letting yourself “fade in and out” of ambition, and why a perfectly good job that pays the bills might actually be part of your dream life.  A thoughtful spiral about ambition, career pivots, and building a dream life instead of obsessing over one perfect job.
      Further Listening: Tiger Sisters Podcast

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      48 min
    • Overthinking About Human Connection

       We say we want more human connection, so why can texting “want to hang?” feel weirdly like begging? This week, Amanda is joined by ICU nurse, New York Times bestselling author, and Stories from a Stranger host Hunter Prosper (@hunter_prosper), whose work interviewing strangers has taught him that connection often starts with something deceptively simple: actually listening. Together, they overthink why we assume we’re burdening our friends, the case for the humble 20-minute “micro hang,” and how to be vulnerable without accidentally oversharing your way into an intimacy level you never signed up for. They also get into our increasingly unrealistic expectations around constant communication, why one awkward social moment probably isn’t being dissected in the group chat, and how many potential friendships die because everyone is waiting for someone else to make the first move.
      A thoughtful spiral about loneliness, vulnerability, and being brave enough to say hi first.

      Further Reading: Stories From A Stranger by Hunter Prosper

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        40 min
      • Overthinking About Ambition

        Are you ambitious... or just exhausted? This week, Amanda is joined by award winning journalist and author of The Ambition Penalty, Stefanie O'Connell (@stefanieoconnell), to unpack one of the most misunderstood words in our vocabulary, ambition. They explore why ambition isn't a fixed personality trait, how corporate culture rewards some people while penalizing others for the exact same behavior, and why women are so often expected to walk an impossible tightrope between being "too much" and "not enough." They answer listener thought spirals about external validation, comparison, girlboss burnout, trad wives, capitalism, and whether it's possible to want a big life without letting your achievements define your worth. A validating spiral about redefining success and realizing your ambition was never the problem.
        Further Reading: The Ambition Penalty by Stafanie O'Connell

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          42 min
        • Overthinking About Starting Over

          This week, Amanda is joined by entrepreneur, former supreme court attorney and professional poker player, and author of You Can Just Do Things, Cate Hall, to unpack why starting over feels so terrifying and why it might be the very thing that leads us toward a more authentic life. Together, they chat about the fear of quitting, the sunk cost fallacy, why we crave a tidy life story, and how to tell the difference between running away from something and running toward yourself. They also answer listener thought spirals about toxic jobs, divorce, changing careers, moving across the world, getting "too old" to begin again, and whether it's ever really too late to start over.
          Further Reading: You Can Just Do Things by Cate Hall with Sasha Chapin

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          44 min
        • Overthinking About Aging

          Why are we so afraid of getting older? Is it really about wrinkles... or are we actually afraid of losing our purpose, our identity, and the people we love? This week, Amanda is joined by oncologist, bioethicist, and Eat Your Ice Creamauthor Dr. Ezekiel "Zeke" Emanuel (@drezekielemanuel) to unpack our culture's obsession with staying young. Together, they explore why the wellness industry's promises of longevity miss the point, why curiosity matters more than looking 25 forever, and why some of the happiest, most meaningful years of life may still be ahead of us. They answer listener thought spirals about Botox, becoming "invisible," feeling behind in adulthood, retirement, and whether getting older has to mean becoming less yourself. A hopeful spiral about learning to fear aging a little less... and living a little more.

          Further Reading: Eat Your Ice Cream by Ezekiel J. Emanuel, MD

          - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers.

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            46 min
          • Overthinking About Failure
          • Why does failure feel so much bigger than it actually is? This week, Amanda is joined by entrepreneur, author, and leadership coach Jane Marie Chen (@janemarie.chen) to spiral about failure: why we're so terrified of it, why we avoid it at all costs, and why it often hurts so much more than the thing that actually happened. Together, they explore perfectionism, rejection, burnout, imposter syndrome, and the childhood experiences that shape our relationship to failure long before we ever encounter it. And what if failure isn't evidence that we're unworthy? What if it's simply the price of catching bigger waves? A reflective spiral about risk, resilience, and learning to love yourself even when things don't go according to plan.

            Further Reading: Like a Wave We Break by Jane Marie Chen


            - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers.

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            - Pick up Amanda's book The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality, or listen to the audiobook.


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            42 min
          • Overthinking About Mommy Issues

            No matter how old we get, there’s a decent chance a small part of us is still trying to impress, understand, forgive, rebel against, or be comforted by our mothers. This week, Amanda is joined by writer and editor Ashley Oerman (@ashleyoerman), author of Motherf*cked, to spiral about one of the most loaded relationships in the human experience: the one between mothers and their children. Together, they unpack the impossible expectations placed on mothers, the ways our earliest relationships shape our adult identities, and why "mommy issues" have become both a punchline and a profound psychological reality. A tender spiral about the stories we spend a lifetime trying to rewrite.

            Further Reading: Motherf*cked: How to Stop Your Mothers Toxic Drama from Ruining Your Life by Ashley Oerman

            - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers.

            - To access early, ad-free episodes and more, subscribe to the Magical Overthinkers Substack.

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                47 min
              • Overthinking About Burnout

                When we first aired this episode in 2024, burnout felt like the defining emotional state of modern life. Two years later… honestly, not much has improved. If anything, burnout has shape-shifted. The girlboss hustle era may be less aspirational than it once was, but it’s been replaced by new flavors of exhaustion: constant digital overwhelm, economic anxiety, doomscrolling, and the strange pressure to be “healing” productively at all times. So this week, we’re revisiting Amanda’s conversation with the brilliant Amelia Nagoski (@burnoutbookgroup), co-author of Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle, for a much-needed refresher on what burnout actually is. Together, they unpack what happens when our bodies get stuck in an incomplete stress response cycle, why modern life keeps us there, and what it actually takes to start feeling better. If you’re emotionally fried, physically depleted, or somehow both overstimulated and numb, this one’s for you. We’ll be back in two weeks with a brand new episode.
                Further Reading: Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle by Emily Nagoski, PhD, and Amelia Nagoski, DMA

                - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers.

                - To access early, ad-free episodes and more, subscribe to the Magical Overthinkers Substack.

                - Pick up Amanda's book The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality, or listen to the audiobook.

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                1 hr 6 min

              About Magical Overthinkers

              From the publisher's feed

              Are you an overthinker? Prone to thought spirals? Do you wonder why, despite living in the "Information Age," life only seems to be making less sense? From extreme celebrity worshippers to people with master’s degrees basing their real-life choices on Mercury’s whereabouts, there seems to be a lot of delulu out there these days. More than ever, in fact. Enter: This relatable, thought-provoking podcast for curious overthinkers. Every other week, tune in as host Amanda Montell, author of the New York Times bestselling book The Age of Magical Overthinking and host of the Sounds Like A Cult podcast, interviews a brilliant expert guest about a buzzy, confounding, anxiety-provoking topic. Think: narcissism, nostalgia, polyamory, social media comparison, "millennial cringe." Complete with heart-on-their-sleeve personal stories, thought-provoking conversations, and actionable takeaways for how chronically online listeners can get out of their own heads, this podcast is here to make some sense of the senseless. To help quiet the cacophony in our brains for a while. Or even hear a melody in it.

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