Michael and his family left Covenant's campus in May of 1990, but the stigma of Elizabeth Mackintosh's murder followed them the rest of their lives. In this episode we hear from Michael's two oldest children, Karl and Kirsten, as they talk about the effect the murder had on them.

Here are some resources if you or someone you know needs help with a domestic violence or child abuse situation.

National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1-800-799-SAFE or text “START” to 88788

Childhelp National Child Abuse Hotline : 1-800-4-A-CHILD

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