Ex-addict and super podcaster Jed Payne from Church and Other Drugs makes his second appearance on the show--this time to talk about the Blurry Creatures people see on psychedelic drugs. From machine elves to shadow people, how is it that multitudes of people across the planet seem to see the same entities when taking certain drugs? Jed talks about his own experiences and the things he has seen and the dangers of trying to access the spirit world. Are these shared experiences all in the mind or are people actually seeing creatures behind the veil? 

Guest: Jed Payne 

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