Roger White - artist, the co-creator and co-editor of the art journal Paper Monument, and author of the recent book, The Contemporaries: Travels in the 21st-Century Art World - discusses: the main characters in his book: Dana Schutz, Mary Walling Blackburn and Stephen Kaltenbach; entering and exiting the art world with varying degrees of notice; the pros and cons of working for other artists (with specific mention of assistants to Vanessa Beecroft and Jeff Koons); the challenges of creating alternate/regional art centers; the exhuming of vintage artist's careers, and how in the future that may no longer be possible; and Roger weighs in on painting, why he does it, and attempts to argue for the irrelevance of whether it's relevant. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.