Scrappy ABM

EP. 114 - Simplifying ABM Strategies with Dave Gerhardt


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In this special episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby joins Dave Gerhardt on the Exit Five podcast to discuss simplifying Account-Based Marketing (ABM) strategies and implementing a signal-based go-to-market approach. This episode is repurposed from Exit Five, where Mason was a guest sharing his insights on practical ABM implementations without the need for complex tech stacks.


Best Moments:

(01:17) Why ABM is a popular but challenging topic for marketers

(05:59) Who should implement ABM strategies

(09:41) Differences between ABM and pure play demand generation

(15:10) The importance of personalized content in ABM

(24:41) The four D's framework for ABM: Data, Distribution, Destination, and Direction

(28:57) Benefits of starting with closed-lost and website re-engagement programs

(34:29) ABM myths and misconceptions

(37:31) The importance of a crawl, walk, run approach to implementing ABM


Guest Bios:

  • Dave Gerhardt: Dave is the founder of Exit Five and a former startup CMO. He is a renowned marketing expert and thought leader with extensive experience in B2B marketing, including content marketing, demand generation, and ABM. Dave is known for his practical approach to marketing strategies and hosts the Exit Five podcast, helping B2B marketers grow their careers.
  • Mason Cosby: Mason is the host of the Scrappy ABM podcast and an ABM expert specializing in building effective ABM programs on low budgets. Over the past three years, he has sourced over $8 million in revenue, driving an 18X ROI. Mason runs various ABM-related content platforms, including a podcast, newsletter, website, and a masterclass in partnership with UserGems.


About Exit Five Podcast:

The Exit Five podcast, hosted by Dave Gerhardt, features conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, and subject matter experts across all aspects of modern B2B marketing. Episodes cover planning, strategy, operations, ABM, demand generation, product marketing, brand, content, social media, and more, providing valuable insights to help marketers grow their careers.


Additional Resources:


Listen to the full episode on Exit Five:

  • Spotify
  • Apple Podcasts
  • Amazon Music
  • PlayerFM


Join the Exit Five Community: exitfive.com


Connect with the Guests on LinkedIn:

  • Dave Gerhardt
  • Mason Cosby


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