This episode features an interview with retired DEA agents Steve Murphy & Javier Pena. Murphy & Pena are the agents who brought down Pablo Escobar. Their story inspired the hit Netflix series Narcos. As you'll hear in this interview, there are some differences between what really happened and what was portrayed in the series. This is one of our favorite interviews thus far so we hope you enjoy it.

If you'd like to learn more about the investigation that ended the reign of Pablo Escobar you can get Steve and Javier's new book Manhunters: How We Took Down Pablo Escobar at www.deanarcos.com. If you purchase the book from their website, Steve and Javier will personalize and sign your copy.