In this conversation, Nick Troutman, accomplished paddler and content creator, explores the distinction between fear and danger when assessing risk versus rewards on and off the water.

Anna and Nick also explore how failing and making mistakes are key to experiencing growth and overcoming self-doubt at the highest levels of achievement and performance.

Nick is a big believer in the power of perseverance and passion in pursuing your goals, and Anna also brings up the concept of sunk cost, and the need to change course when something is not fulfilling.

They share stories about the importance of knowing your why and aligning your actions with your goals.