Paulo and Guilherme Silveira are two brothers who co-founded and lead Alura as an integrated set of companies delivering IT skills in Brazil. They do so with support from SEEK Investments whose MD Josh Nester joins me on this episode. Their business spans from state partnerships in K-12, through a university they bought and now operate, to skills provision for alumni lifelong learners, that grow into corporate education for new leaders of businesses. In total they serve more than 2 million learners as a business. The example gives pointers of new revenue and diversification opportunities that others could learn from.