Bobby C from Anonymous Addiction Podcast spent 35 years inside Alcoholics Anonymous — but he was never fully at peace with the ideology. Trapped by cognitive dissonance, he questioned the slogans, the control structures, and the religious roots even while he kept showing up.

In this conversation, Bobby shares how he saw “cults within the cult,” why the chips and steps never sat right, and how he finally shifted into true freedom outside the 12-step frame.

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Timestamps:

00:00 — Intro Bobby C Deprogramming While In AA

02:05 — Joining AA + First Sponsor

08:29 — In Alcoholics Anonymous 35 Years

10:08 — Control structure: Steps, Traditions, Concepts, Trustees

14:36 — Roots in religion: Oxford Group, Sister Ignatia, priests

18:14 — Labels, DSM skepticism, and “dis-ease”

23:14 — Culture & media: why AA dominates screen time

39:30 — Paradigm shift away from 12-step + leaving timeline

50:45 — Becoming a SMART Recovery facilitator

56:05 — Boundaries, in-person community, and the “becoming” lens

1:11:10 — How Bobby C and Sobriety Bestie "met"

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