Telco in 20

Ep 135 - Telco has a context problem (John Abraham)


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Every telco exec is talking about AI agents. Almost nobody is talking about what those agents actually need to work: context.

Not just data — the logic, rules, and decision-making processes that define how your business actually operates. That knowledge currently lives in two places: buried in vendor code nobody fully understands, and inside people's heads. No agentic system, no matter how shiny, can make decisions without it.

In this episode, I sit down with John Abraham, Partner and Principal Analyst at Appledore Research, to dig into why a lack of context is the real blocker for AI at scale, why most approaches only solve half the problem, and how an ontology gives AI the business logic it needs to not just analyze, but decide and act.

Listen now to hear:

  • The three Cs holding telcos back from using AI at scale [04:42];
  • Why AI agents risk creating a new generation of silos [08:59];
  • How a small use case can unlock compounding AI value [14:13]; and
  • Why a data lake is a costly side quest [15:09].
  • Links and Resources:

    • Read the Appledore Research report: Telecom-specific Ontology, the key to AI-native telco (paywalled).
    • Watch my MWC26 talk for the Agentic AI Summit, Show me the money.
    • Learn more about the Totogi Ontology and how it's helping Tier-1 operators turn AI into actual profit.
    • Want to see the Totogi Ontology in action and hear more customer success stories? Find Team Totogi in Hall 2 at MWC26 in Barcelona through March 5. We’ll be showing off our telco ontology that manages enterprise context at scale. Set up a meeting.
    • Check out these additional Appledore Research reports: GenAI in BSS and Predictive Analytics and GenAI: Choosing the right tool for the job (paywalled).
    • Listen to my conversation with Rick Lievano from Microsoft, who talked about AT&T's AI agent deployment and why they pumped the brakes before going to production.
    • Curious how a Tier-1 operator turned a $1–2M dormant cell problem into tens of millions in CXO-level impact—all on the same ontology foundation? Listen to What's up with Totogi: The biggest AI use case for telco.
    • I once gave John a Yeti that he still raves about. Since then, he’s grown a beard and likes using Vikings Revolution products to take care of it. I guess our next gift to him will be a Mustache Guard mug.
    • Check out this episode on our YouTube channel.
    • You can find the episode transcript here.
    • Wanna talk AI and public cloud? Telco execs, set up a meeting with our team to learn how to tap the immense business value it can bring. 

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        This week’s guest:

        With over 16 years of experience in the telecom industry, John leads Appledore’s Digital Enablement & Monetization program. Previously, he was at Analysys Mason for 11 years, where he led the digital experience research segment as principal analyst. He has experience working with a varied client base on topics ranging from digitization benchmarking and procurement for CSPs; strategy and go-to market for vendors; and commercial and technical due diligence for financial institutions. Earlier, as a consultant at a BSS vendor, he led requirements gathering, solution definition, and implementation at multiple Tier-1 telcos in Asia and Europe. John holds a bachelor’s degree in computer science from Anna University (India) and an MBA from Bradford University School of Management (UK).

        Podcast Credits:

        • Executive Producer and Host: Danielle Rios, TelcoDR
        • Senior Producer: Lindsay Grubb, TillCo Media
        • Senior Editor/Brand Manager: Alisa Jenkins, Springboard Marketing
        • Audio Editor: Andrew Condell
        • Supervising Producer: Amanda Avery
        • Associate Producer: Kriselda Dionisio
        • Music: Dyami Wilson

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