Michael Sodini and Kevin Berry sit down with Kami Kay Kirschbaum, founder & CEO of CIVILIAN, a bulletproof clothing brand built to blend in. From growing up with active-shooter drills to a literal dream that sparked the idea, Kami walks us through turning a wild concept into light, breathable, and stylish bulletproof apparel.

We talk Sweden vs. U.S. safety culture, why most armor looks tactical (and why hers doesn’t), the maze of financing and manufacturing, getting into SHOT Show as a newcomer, and landing key partnerships, including a consumer launch with Guns.com. We also hit legality basics, women-specific armor design, and why “don’t scare people, make them feel prepared” drives CIVILIAN’s brand. 

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