Before we start, feel free to support the podcast if you've been listening for a while by signing up for my Patreon for $1 and I will love you forever.

Say Anything is one of my favorite bands of all time. If you don't know who they are just start with Is A Real Boy… and then consume each album after that.

Max heard Rama from Big Wheel's interview (Episode 148) and messaged me to chat, we set up some time for an interview and this is what we chat about:

• Writing songs for people
• Playing for Drive-Thru
• The intro to belt
• Buddyhead
• Rama from Big Wheel
• Bipolar and Manifesting
• How fast did Is A Real Boy blow up
• Anarchy, My Dear
• In Defense of the Genre
• Amy Fiddler
• And a ton more

This week's sponsor is Mint 400 Records.

Mint 400 Records is an indie record label from NJ with bands across the United States, Canada, and Europe. The label features everything from Indie Rock & Folk to Post-Punk and Soul. Over 400 exciting releases.

You can find Mint 400 Records' releases streaming at Spotify, Pandora, Tidal, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Deezer, and more or at all mp3 outlets worldwide. Visit www.mint400records.com for links and more info.

Here's a clip from their band Ladybirds's song "Regional Community Theater" which features Max on 2 tracks, originally released in 2007 it is available on all streaming platforms from Mint 400 Records.

Check out my new book The Couples' Checklist for my webcomic dailyBred. It's a great gift for Valentine's Day. I also have an Instagram for it.

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