Lets talk celebrities- or more specifically, why is everyone else talking about celebrities. Is there a trial of some kind going on, and should it impact how we feel about Aquaman 2? Why does the name Kathleen Kennedy evoke such strong feelings in certain parts of the Star Wars fandom,. and what role does misogyny, racism, and other issues play in the narratives that get formed around celebrities and fandom? Paul joins me to talk about these questions, along with what its like to listen to our episodes from 5 years ago on their Poker & Podcasts series on Youtube!

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