This week, hosts Katy Reed Hodges and Luke Stehr are joined by Curt Grice, who filled in as guest preacher this past Sunday. The conversation covers everything from Curt's daily routines (Cliff Bars, PS5 RPGs, and morning coffee with his wife Kim of 46 years) to the heart of Sunday's powerful service. Preaching from Romans 12:1–2, Curt made the bold choice to feature a live testimony from Frank and Karen — a couple whose honest story of addiction, brokenness, and redemption moved the congregation to a standing ovation. Curt shares how the Holy Spirit led him to invite them to share, the careful preparation behind the moment, and his deep conviction that the church should be a safe place to be real. At the center of it all: a reminder that too many people try to do Christianity without ever falling in love with Jesus.

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