Somehow Simon got Doug to explain how to avoid all industry and build your own fan base.

Recorded June 2nd, 2018 in the UK with Doug Stanhope (@DougStanhope), and Simon Caine (@thismademecool). Produced by Hennigan. Edited by Chaille (@gregchaille).

This episode is sponsored by 

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Closing song, “Party Time", by The Mattoid. Available on iTunes - [https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/the-mattoid/6129716](https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/the-mattoid/6129716)

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