If you want to know someone's secrets, we have just the guest for you!  This week we talk to Ella Smith who plays Desirée Blodget on The Nevers.  She talks to us about her character's debut in last week's episode, that crucial scene between Amalia and Inspector Mundi, Desirée's parenting style and much more.  Plus she teases what's going to be coming up in this week's HUGE third episode.  WATCH THE NEVERS EVERY SUNDAY AT 9PM ON HBO AND HBO MAX.

We also have a review of the season finale of The Falcon and The Winter Soldier and the first season of Netflix's Shadow And Bone, both spoiler free!  You can also hear our thoughts on the trailers for Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and Marvel's M.O.D.O.K.  Plus we talk about Emilia Clark joining the comics world, a new direction for Superman at DC and a lot more.

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