Jonathan Eig is an award-winning author and journalist whose books include Ali: A Life and Luckiest Man: The Life and Death of Lou Gehrig.

His new book is King: A Life.

In this wide-ranging conversation, Jonathan emphasizes the real and complex Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. as opposed to the man who has been made into a secular saint, what it was like to be a trustee of such a legacy and life, and how the real and complex and flawed man who did amazing things is so much more interesting and inspiring than the 2-dimensional version of Dr. King that too many people robotically worship.

Jonathan also explains how we should not overlook or otherwise ignore Dr. King's very human imperfections such as his womanizing, plagiarizing, as well as emotional vulnerabilities and struggles that included serious depression and suicide attempts, because to do so is to take away King's ability to inspire we regular folks to achieve great things in very difficult times.

On this Memorial Day weekend episode of the podcast, Chauncey DeVega shares a story about King MAGA Uncle Trump CHUD's unbelievable adventures in love. Chauncey has also found himself immersed in a high-profile animal bird country law case involving a young crow delinquent who attacked a man in a local park.

And in a special segment of the show, Chauncey DeVega honors the life and legacy of the great and underappreciated professional wrestler "Superstar" Billy Graham who passed away last week.

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