After five years of being a senior pastor, what lessons does Barry have to pass on?

Barry, Sissy, and Isaac talk about what Barry has learned after five years of being Senior Pastor at Irving Bible Church. He passes on four lessons and four questions that apply to us all whether you're in vocational ministry or not.

The crew wraps up the episode by playing a game—Taylor Swift lyric or verse from Lamentations?

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