Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what makes someone a real Christian.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What makes a real Christian?
• Is everyone who claims to be a Christian a Christian?
• How does anyone get to define what Christianity is or is not?
• Why would we say a Jehovah's Witness or a Mormon is not a Christian?
• If Jesus is not God, does it change the nature of the atonement?
• How do you determine which denominations are within the family and which are not?

Helpful Definitions: 

• Arianism: Believes that Jesus was the first and greatest creature created by God, but not God.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• John 3, 1 Corinthians 5, 1-3 John, John 1
• The Apostles Creed
• Nicene Creed
• The Chalcedonian Creed

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about how therapeutic language has invaded the church.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Has therapeutic language invaded the church?
• What are the root theological issues at play in therapeutic language and the church?
• What do we mean by therapy language?
• What is the history that got us here?
• How should the Christian enter into therapeutic practices?
• How does this show up in lament?
• How does this affect Bible reading?
• Where else has therapeutic language invaded the church?
• What is underemphasized in the church?
• Why does this need to be addressed?
• What is one step for someone who wants to engage faithfully with therapeutic language?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Matthew 22:37, Philippians 4:4-9
• “The Triumph of the Therapeutic” by Philip Rieff 
• “The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self” By Carl Trueman 
• “Daring Greatly’ by Brené Brown
• Confronting Christianity
• “Bad Therapy” by Abigail Shrier
• “Formed for Fellowship” by Kyle Worley
• Deep Discipleship Program

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Season 15 of the Knowing Faith podcast begins on August 21st! In this episode, Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley give you a preview of what is to come in Season 15.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What are some of our main disagreements?
• What is our goal?
• What are we talking about this season?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Romans 9-11

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted by their Patreon supporters!

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• How do we decide what the original author meant, specifically when using the word “all” in Romans 3:23 and Romans 9-11?
• What are some of the rich implications practically and culturally for the doctrine of the Image of God?
• What are your personal rhythms for continuing to learn and grow?
• Is it essential to hold a definitive position on all second-tier theological issues, or can I faithfully choose an unresolved position?
• Any tips for successfully facilitating the Deep Discipleship curriculum?
• How do you choose who you work with in the world of creating resources?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Romans 9-11, 11:26, 3:23, Romans 5:18
• Deep Discipleship Program

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Kyle Worley is joined by Adam Griffin and Amy Gannett to discuss updates from the Training the Church podcast family.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What have you learned in doing Tiny Theologians?
• What was the vision for the Tiny Theologians podcast?
• What was the vision for The Family Discipleship podcast?
• What is the future for these podcasts?
• If someone wanted to follow your podcast, how can they do that?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Tiny Theologians Podcast, Instagram
• The Family Discipleship Podcast, Website, Instagram
• Confronting Christianity
• Starting Place with Elizabeth Woodson

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Jen Wilkin and Kyle Worley are joined by Elizabeth Woodson to discuss her new study on the book of Galatians.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Why Galatians?
• What did you learn as you wrote this study?
• Who were your favorite commentary sources?
• What was the most challenging part to write about?
• How is this study designed to work and be used?
• What are the false stories in Galatians that the gospel brings freedom from?
• What hit you the hardest?

Guest Bio:

Elizabeth Woodson is the founder of The Woodson Institute, where she helps believers learn and grow in their Christian faith. She is a co-host on the Culture Matters podcast and the host of the Starting Place with Elizabeth Woodson podcast. Elizabeth is a graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary with a Masters in Christian Education and the author of several books, including Embrace Your Life, From Beginning to Forever, and Live Free: A Study of Galatians.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• “Live Free: A Study of Galatians” by Elizabeth Woodson
• “Galatians: The Story of God Bible Commentary” Nijay K. Gupta 
• “Galatians For You” by Tim Keller
• “Exalting Jesus in Galatians: Christ-Centered Exposition Commentary” by David Platt
• “From Beginning to Forever: A Study of the Grand Narrative of Scripture” by Elizabeth Woodson

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JT English and Kyle Worley discuss their new books, “ Remember and Rehearse” and “Formed for Fellowship,” and how they are valuable tools for discipleship.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What were you thinking when you were trying to build a theological education department in the church?
• What is “You are a Theologian”?
• What’s different about Remember and Rehearse?
• What did you learn about the story of the Bible while you wrote this book?
• What’s different about Formed for Fellowship?
• What did you learn while writing this book?
• What's the value of books for Christian discipleship?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Deep Discipleship Program
• “Remember and Rehearse” by JT English
• RememberandRehearse.com
• “Formed for Fellowship” by Kyle Worley
• FormedforFellowship.com
• “You are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and JT English
• “Drama of Scripture” by Craig Bartholomew and Michael Goheen 
• “Delighting in the Trinity” by Michael Reeves 
• “Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life” by Donald S Whitney

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Jen Wilkin and Kyle Worley are joined by Hunter Beless and Courtney Doctor to discuss their new Bible study on the book of Titus.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Why did you decide to do a study on Titus?
• Why did you do this project together?
• How is this study designed to work?
• What is Titus about?
• What is something you learned while writing this study?
• Did you feel any hesitation when talking about morality?
• What was the trickiest passage or verse to work through?

Guest Bio:

Hunter Beless is the founder of Journeywomen Ministries, the author of "Read It, See It, Say It, Sing It!" and "Amy Carmichael: The Brown-Eyed Girl Who Learned to Pray," and she loves doing ministry in her local church context. Hunter and her husband, Brooks, have four amazing kiddos who memorize Scripture way faster than their mama! When they’re not reading, seeing, saying, or singing the Bible, you can find the Beless family camping, riding bikes, or snuggling up with a good book. You can find her at www.hunterbeless.com and on the Journeywomen Podcast.

Courtney Doctor is an author, Bible teacher, frequent conference and retreat speaker, and periodic blogger. She received an MDiv from Covenant Theological Seminary in 2013 and is a Bible teacher and author of several books and Bible studies including From Garden to Glory: How Understanding God's Story Changes Yours; Steadfast: A Devotional Bible Study on the Book of James; and In View of God's Mercies: The Gift of the Gospel in Romans. She currently serves as the Director of Women's Initiatives for The Gospel Coalition. God has blessed Courtney and her husband, Craig, with four wonderful children, three great kids-in-law, five sweet grandchildren — and their much-loved, goofy dog, Walter.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• “Titus: Displaying the Gospel of Grace” by Courtney Doctor and Hunter Beless

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Kyle Worley is joined by Thomas West and Trevin Wax to discuss their new book, The Gospel Way Catechism.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What’s all this talk about a catechism? Isn’t the bible enough?
• What is the relationship between a catechism and bible study?
• What is the response from people when you told them you were working on a catechism?
• Why another catechism?
• Are catechisms supposed to be contextual?
• Can you share an example from your catechism?
• What role or value does catechism have in the church?

Guest Bio:

Trevin Wax is vice president of research and resource development at the North American Mission Board and a visiting professor at Cedarville University. He is a founding editor of The Gospel Project, has served as publisher for the Christian Standard Bible, and is currently a fellow for The Keller Center for Cultural Apologetics. He is the author of multiple books, including The Thrill of Orthodoxy, The Multi-Directional Leader, Rethink Your Self, This Is Our Time, and Gospel Centered Teaching. His podcast is Reconstructing Faith. He and his wife, Corina, have three children. You can follow him on Twitter or Facebook, or receive his columns via email.

Thomas West (PhD, Southeastern Seminary) is the senior pastor of Nashville First Baptist Church and an adjunct professor of theology at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is the coauthor of The Gospel Way Catechism (with Trevin Wax). He and his wife, Elizabeth, have two children. You can follow him on X or Instagram.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• “The Gospel Way Catechism” by Trevin Wax and Thomas West
• The Westminster Larger Catechism
• The New City Catechism

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JT English and Kyle Worley discuss how the Training the Church Ministry Cohort can help you shape and form deep disciples in your ministry.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Why did we choose to name this “Training the Church”?
• When did we launch our first cohort?
• What kind of people participate in the cohort?
• What is something people will learn from the cohort?
• What format is the cohort offered in (in-person, Zoom, online class)?
• What's the difference between the Training the Church Ministry Cohort and the Deep Discipleship Program?
• What is the goal of this cohort?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Training the Church Ministry Cohort
• Deep Discipleship Program

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