Mark wondered about the connection between suffering/oppression and innovation/progress, so we explore whether these things are inherently connected.

Highlights:

[0:00] CoRri tells Mark about the phenomenon of mass psychogenic illness, and it turns out Mark has experienced it

[22:50] Not to harp on this soccer thing, but boy does it bring out the worst in the UK. Still, CoRri got kind of into it. Plus, a reminder that July 24th is our vampire watch-along and you should vote in the poll for what to watch on Twitter!

[33:00] Our weekly chat about what horror movies we’ve been watching

[51:15] We discuss whether suffering is necessary for progress, or whether history has simply made us complacent to it