What’s it like to delve into the origins, psyche, and after-effects of evil, and set it all on the page? Author Ashley Audrain, whose debut novel The Push became an instant New York Times bestseller, shares with Julie and Eve her thinking behind her remarkable thriller. Together, they explore whether malevolence is inherited, if a child can be truly monstrous, and what it’s like to be, simultaneously, the daughter, granddaughter, and mother of a person who may (or may not) be truly evil. Hear them challenge the tired and convenient trope of the mother-at-fault-for-the-sins-of her-child. And find out, too, why Eve once wrote a hate letter to Martin Scorsese!

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