Perpetual Chess Podcast

EP 455- Marcos Patricio Macedo: A Forensic Detective’s Reflections on Chess, Balance, and Burnout


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The Adult Improver Series returns with a fascinating story that highlights the broad appeal of chess. Marcos Patricio Macedo is a Brasília-based forensic detective, dad, and chess enthusiast who rediscovered the game in 2018 and hasn’t stopped since. Chess has become a welcome escape from the pressures of his homicide-investigation work, and he’s helped build community both locally and among fellow officers.

Marcos believes in the game’s value so deeply that he helped restore chess as an event in the World Police & Fire Games, an international gathering for first responders. In our conversation, he shares:

  • What it took to bring chess back to the games

  • How it was received and what might come next

  • His mixed feelings about balancing chess with family, work, and improvement

  • Lessons from coaches, online study, and his first major OTB tournament

    Marcos’ relatable story reveals both the rewards and the potential pitfalls of dedicating a lot of time to chess as a hobby. 

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    0:00- You can join the Perpetual Chess Patreon community here:

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    02:00- What got Marcos back into chess in 2018? 

    07:00- Similarities and differences between chess analysis and forensic analysis

    10:00- Marcos’ approach to improving at chess

    Mentioned: GM Rafael Leitão, Hanging Pawns YouTube Channel, GM Daniel Naroditsky 

    15:00- Chess as a stress reliever for a first responder 

    20:00- Marcos tells the story of his successful advocacy to get chess included in the recent World Police & Fire Games 

    30:00- Why does Marcos think his interest in chess waned when he returned from the World Police & Fire Games ?

    Mentioned: Silman’s The Amateur’s Mind, Coach FM Juan Cruz Arias 

    40:00- Marcos’ previous OTB experiences

    43:00- The chess scene in Brazil

    44:00- Marcos’ next move 

    49:00- Closing thoughts

    Mentioned: EP 429 with Omar Mills

    https://www.perpetualchesspod.com/new-blog/2025/4/8/ep-429-omar-mills-chess-and-life-lessons-learned-from-not-improving-as-much-as-he-expected

    Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com).

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